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Re: Seeking brother's 1970 debriefing
Elliot Schneider Dec 30, 2020 9:00 AM (in response to Martha Moser)Mrs. Moser,
I'm not sure what they did in reference to debriefings after service in Vietnam, but I know from my own personnel experience after the Gulf War they did debriefings for us but were very limited at most. Most of us wanted to go home to our families and wives. What unit was your brother in? 23rd Americal Division? 1st Cav? 101st A/B? Please provide us with some additional information.
In regards to help with PTSD claim you need to seek services from the VA you need to request a Comp and Pen evaluation by filling on the proper VA forms for claim of PTSD. Please copy and paste the link for VA 21-0781 Statement in Support of Claim for service- connected PTSD. The second form is for secondary PTSD to personal assault.
VA-21-0781:
https://www.vba.va.gov/pubs/forms/VBA-21-0781-ARE.pdf
VA- 21-0781a:
https://www.vba.va.gov/pubs/forms/vba-21-0781a-are.pdf
Other helpful information:
http://www.davdol.org/images/How_To_Develop_A_Claim_for_PTSD.pdf
Hope this helps,
Elliot Schneider
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Re: Seeking brother's 1970 debriefing
Martha Moser Dec 30, 2020 6:37 PM (in response to Elliot Schneider)I think this may be what you need. Thanks again. Is there a family member medal category?
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Re: Seeking brother's 1970 debriefing
Elliot Schneider Dec 31, 2020 9:50 AM (in response to Martha Moser)Mrs. Moser,
Based on your brothers MOS (Military Occupation) he was a 71H20 which falls into this MOS category. The paper you sent me was a transfer station at Ft. Lewis, WA . Do you have anything additional that you can provide that shows possibly his war unit. Is this your brother below?
Additionally, looking at the document you sent the last APO # he was at was APO 96495 which is labeled as Quang Tri, Vietnam. If you have any additional war unit information that maybe helpful.
Name: Billy Jack Moser Date of Birth: 14 Jul 1949 Gender: Male Birth County: Harris Father's Name: Billy Foye Moser Mother's Name: Katie Ruth Davis Roll Number: 1949_0009 Military Occupation Classification:
71H
CLASSIFICATION INTERVIEWER
COMPANY CLK
MANPOWER SERGEANT
RECORDS BRANCH SUPERVISOR
REPORTS CLK
SUSPENSE CLK
Happy New Year,
Elliot Schneider
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Re: Seeking brother's 1970 debriefing
Martha Moser Dec 31, 2020 10:32 AM (in response to Martha Moser)I just wanted to let you know that the paper I sent that had others that were debriefed the same day as my brother gave me an idea. I looked up the military records for the other guys and could not find anything on any of them either. I'm puzzled.
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Re: Seeking brother's 1970 debriefing
Elliot Schneider Dec 31, 2020 3:41 PM (in response to Martha Moser)Martha,
The best thing to find out is if he can tell you what fire base he was at, and what unit he was with this will be a lot easier to narrow down war reports and unit histories.
Elliot Schneider
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Re: Seeking brother's 1970 debriefing
Elliot Schneider Dec 31, 2020 3:56 PM (in response to Martha Moser)Martha,
Rudy Brown who is listed on your brother paperwork, have found he passed away in 2016 please copy and paste link into your web browser. There is a write up or obituary of him.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/166368020/rudy-bryant-brown
Name: Rudy Bryant Brown Rank: Sp 4 Death Age: 68 Birth Date: 12 Sep 1947 Death Date: 30 Jun 2016 Internment Place: Memphis, Tennessee, USA Cemetery Address: 4000 Forest Hill-Irene Rd Cemetery Postal Code: 38125 Cemetery: West Tennessee Veterans Cemetery Section: Pp Plot: 35 War: Vietnam Branch of Service: US Army Relative: Rudy Bryant Brown Comments: Veteran (Self) -
Re: Seeking brother's 1970 debriefing
Martha Moser Jan 6, 2021 7:57 AM (in response to Elliot Schneider)Elliott,
So sorry for the lag. I think I have his DD-214 and maybe some files he asked for through the hospital. I'll get back on the research today. I saw that about Spec4 Brown. I'm pretty sure Spec5 Henry Terrel Abercrombie is still alive. Do you think that since they left in country the same day & attended the same debriefing, that they served together?
Regards,
Marti Moser
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Re: Seeking brother's 1970 debriefing
Elliot Schneider Jan 6, 2021 8:37 AM (in response to Martha Moser)Marti,
Keep me posted no they were not from the same unit look at what is listed as last "APO" most likely they did not serve together based upon those APO #s listed on the Special orders for USAPERSCEN dated 1971.
Hope you had a good new years and keep me posted let me know what you find on your brothers paperwork.
Thanks,
Elliot
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Re: Seeking brother's 1970 debriefing
Martha Moser Jan 7, 2021 9:22 AM (in response to Elliot Schneider)I certainly will.
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Re: Seeking brother's 1970 debriefing
Jason AtkinsonJan 7, 2021 10:08 AM (in response to Martha Moser)
Dear Ms. Moser,
Thank you for posting your request on History Hub!
We searched the National Archives Catalog and located 21 records series related to debriefings in the Records of the U.S. Forces in Southeast Asia (Record Group 472) but based on the descriptions these appear to all be debriefings of senior officers and other special categories of personnel, rather than sergeants. The National Archives at College Park - Textual Reference (RDT2) does have unit records for individual units that may be useful in providing evidence for a PTSD claim, however RDT2 staff would need to know his unit assignments in order to potentially locate relevant records. Please email RDT2 at archives2reference@nara.gov with full details to request more information about these records.
We also suggest that you request a copy of his Official Military Personnel File (OMPF). OMPFs and individual medical reports for those who served in the U.S. Army after 1958 and prior to October 16, 1992 are in the custody of NARA's National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis. In many cases where personnel records were destroyed in the 1973 fire, proof of service can be provided from other records such as morning reports, payrolls, and military orders, and a certificate of military service will be issued. Please complete a GSA Standard Form 180 and mail it to NARA's National Personnel Records Center, (Military Personnel Records), 1 Archives Drive, St. Louis, MO 63138-1002. Veterans and their next of kin also may use eVetRecs to request records. See eVetRecs Help for instructions. Certain information in the records is not available to the general public without the written consent of the veteran or his next of kin. For more information see Request Military Service Records.
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