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Re: Seeking naturalization information for my great-grandparents
Alice Lane Dec 26, 2020 9:16 AM (in response to Cheryl Zeller)Hi Cheryl Zeller
Welcome to History Hub
I found some information for you on familysearch.org. It is a free website, you just need to register to search.
I found the following 1933 Naturalization record for a Mike DiTerlizzi. It appears that your great-grandfather may have been using Mike or Michael as a first name instead of Mauro. Mike Terlizzi, "Ohio, County Naturalization Records, 1800-1977" (familysearch.org)
There is more information about the family on familysearch.org. if you are searching for more information about your family.
Your great grandparents are also on findagrave.com with photos.
Alice Lane
Research Volunteer.
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Re: Seeking naturalization information for my great-grandparents
Cheryl Zeller Dec 26, 2020 6:58 PM (in response to Alice Lane)Great thank you! I am looking into this information. Thanks so much for your help. It does appear that there is a Mike Terlizzi that I found naturalization for. I think that is a different person. But I am looking at the info. Thanks
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Re: Seeking naturalization information for my great-grandparents
Susannah Brooks Dec 26, 2020 1:32 PM (in response to Cheryl Zeller)In the 1940 US census it states that Michael and Lucy had filed their first papers (Declarations of Intention) to become citizens.
He became a citizen in 1944. His naturalization petition file (certificate of arrival, declaration, & petition) can be found at https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C33W-G39X-S?i=517&cat=3029447 [4 pages].
Lucy's file can be found at https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C33W-G3M3-W?i=545&cat=3029447 [5 pages]
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Re: Seeking naturalization information for my great-grandparents
Grace Yuhasz Dec 26, 2020 4:28 PM (in response to Cheryl Zeller)I tried to follow Mauro & Lucia’s trail to see if there were any clues about naturalization. (I had to make sure to search both with and without a space between the Di and the Terlizzi.)
Mauro Di Terlizzi’s passenger list which you mentioned:
New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924
There is a handwritten number from 11-20-1939 above Lucia’s entry. Sometimes this number corresponds to a naturalization document number. I’m not certain what this particular one is indicating. This image is found on image number 365. (FamilySearch can be viewed for free, you just need to register.)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J6H5-XJQ
Over on image 471, the Record of Aliens Held for Special Inquiry has Manro Di Ferlizzi listed as well as Lucia and Nicola Sacucci. (Here is the direct link to that image.)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9T4-G342-L?i=470&cc=1368704
Ancestry.com has a record set called U.S., Subject Index to Correspondence and Case Files of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, 1903-1959. (You can access Ancestry.com with a paid subscription, a free trial, or possibly with your local library card through your library website.)
**Note the dates on these cards could indicate the date the card was compiled, for instance, not necessarily the date of the action.
Two results came up for Mauro Di Terlizzi.
--The first is dated 5-5-1920 and is a list of illiterates at Ellis Island. Mauro and his wife Lucia Saccucci are on this list, with file number 54,766-486. (from NARA RG85, T458, Roll 16)
--The second is dated 5-10-1920. The card is for the SS ARGENTINA. One entry involves a fine for Mauro and has the same file number as above. (from NARA RG85, T458, Roll 27)
NARA has a page that says what to do with the entry number found on the above cards.
The 1930 Census states Mauro had filed his first papers. Lucia is listed as an alien.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X44V-CVC
The 1940 Census states both he and Lucia had filed first papers.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KWDS-VS8
Mauro’s 1942 WWII Draft card doesn’t ask about citizenship.
If both censuses are correct, there should petitions out there—Mauro may have filed between 1920-1930 and Lucia between 1930-1940. Looking at where the family lived, I would suggest Ohio as the first place to try. It is possible they turned in petitions but were not naturalized.
If they did not naturalize, it is possible they had to register as enemy aliens during WWII. (I’m not sure how citizens from Italy were handled, or how someone with first papers filed would have been viewed.)
Hope this helps. Happy Hunting!
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Re: Seeking naturalization information for my great-grandparents
Cheryl Zeller Dec 26, 2020 7:01 PM (in response to Grace Yuhasz)Hi! Thank you so much for all this info! And yes! This is the Ellis Island registry we have for them. And he was deported for illiteracy. We know that so this is them for sure. Now to try and find when they were naturalized. I'm in the process of looking at everything you sent. Thank you!
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