Which Hindenburg did they live in: Hindenburg (Zabrze, Poland) or Hindenburg Kr. Naugard (Kosciuszki)?
There are some records on Ancestry.com in the record collection "Eastern Prussian Provinces, Germany [Poland], Selected Civil Vitals, 1874-1945" and some records on familysearch.org. Jewish.gen may also have some records.
It just changes where to look for information. I suggest at this point that you look for records on jewishgen.org under German records, town Hindenburg. https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/jgform.php
Zabrze was most often listed as Hindenburg OS.
I found a few people listed during the same time period when searching town Zabrze, that were not on the Hindenburg lists.
I could not look for you since you did not give us the names of your relatives.
You could also look under Polish records for the town they were born in.
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Dear Ms. Rader,
Thank you for posting your request on History Hub!
Since the town formerly known as Hindenburg is currently located in the Silesian Voivodeship/Province of Poland and is part of the Katowice urban area, we suggest that you contact the State archives of Katowice and the civil registration office serving Zabrze to request a citizenship record search for your father.
As the previous poster mentioned, the JewishGen Poland Database may be searched for records of your father, as well as the Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, the National Archives of Poland and the Silesian Digital Library.
We also suggest that you review the FamilySearch Research wikis for Silesian (Śląskie) Voivodeship, Poland Genealogy, Jewish Genealogy Research and Poland and Galicia Jewish Research: A Template for East European Research Part 1.
We hope this is helpful. Best of luck with your family research!
That's a great help, thank you. Besides the jewishgen poland collection (a paid service) i tried to look in all of the online archives for my grandfather birth certificate. He was born in Oświęcim, Poland in 1913. What area was it back then? Where is it best to look for it?
Oświęcim, Poland was Auschwitz, Galicia, Austria. Much of Jewishgen you can access without paying.
Having your ancestors names, would really aid us in helping you search for information.
Thank very much you for your help. This is all i know put together:
My grandfather's first name is Isidor/izydor (hebrew name Ezriel/Asriel). Last name - Rader.
Born in Oświęcim on 20.8.1913. He moved to hindenburg on 1919/1920 and immigrated to palestine probably between 1933-1935
My grandfather's mother's name is: Bejla/Beila/Beyla Rader (born Haftel).
His father: Berisch/Barisch/Beresh (hebrew name Dov). Last name - Rader
We think that my grandfather's parents were born in poland around 1880-1895.
The Holocaust Museum in Washington DC offers free help searching for information about victims and survivors of the Holocaust. They have the only copy of the Bad Arolsen International Tracing Service records in the US.
I scanned quickly through the deportations lists for Hindenburg 1942 and did not see the name Rader (or a variation), but you may want to go through the pages to make certain I did not miss the name. To view the tiny pages you click on them one by one and then click to enlarge them to readable size. http://www.statistik-des-holocaust.de/list_ger_sln_420514.html
The also checked the Yad Vashem website. The only references I found to your grandparents was a testimony submitted by Herta Rader in 1956 stating that Ber Rader and Berta Rader, who had lived in Hindenburg during the war were killed at Auschwitz, but there is no additional information.
Link to Berta's entry:https://yvng.yadvashem.org/nameDetails.html?language=en&itemId=470488&ind=1
I cannot read Hebrew, so am going by the info in the database, not what it actually states on the forms.
Another record that might be helpful is the 1939 census of non-Germanic minorities for Hindenburg. Once Family History Centers re-open, you will be able to view a digital version of the microfilm at one of the center.
Susannah Brooks thank you very much, you're great. this is our family documents. my mother (im writing on her behalf as well) was very mooved.
I'm from Israel, do you know if there's another way to "visit" the family history center?
Could there be another (general and/or of none germanic minorities) census records (Volkzahlungen), residents lists (Einwohnerlisten), and citizen books (Burgerbucher) of Hindenburg for the years 1919-1935?
Unfortunately the closest Family History Center to you would be in Cyprus https://www.familysearch.org/help/fhcenters/locations/
The other types of records, if they exist, would be in archives in Poland (see Cara Jensen's reply).
I believe a copy of the International Tracing Service records as well as many other types of records are at Yad Vashem https://www.yadvashem.org/archive/information-services/reading-and-research-rooms.html
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Dear Ms. Rader,
Thank you for posting your follow-up request on History Hub!
As Oświęcim is currently a part of the Lesser Poland Voivodeship/Province, also known as Małopolska, we suggest that you contact their civil registration office, and the National Archives in Krakow for the information that you seek. In addition, the FamilySearch Research wiki for Lesser Poland (Małopolskie) Voivodeship, Poland Genealogy may be useful.
We hope this is helpful. Best of luck with your family research!
Hi Lea, I will be bringing a few German documents into the mix. Can anyone of your family read German? If not, contact me again here, and I will translate these. (I am a German historian researching the 1920s-1940s.)
Ancestry.com: no results so far
The German government has built a special database (similar to the Yad Vashem database).
The historians and archivists are vey knowledgable; you can contact them and write in English. Then, they will send you documents and answer your questions >> best location to start your search!!
Many documents are already digitised: >> https://arolsen-archives.org/en/
As for the question, if your ancestors were German citizens: do you have any clues that they got a German passport at some point? If not, start your search here.
The Standesamt is where every birth, death and marriage is noted down into official documents. The Standesamt in Hindenburg was established as early as 1874!
The records for 1874-1915 are today stored in this archive at Staatsarchiv Kattowitz (Außenstelle Gleiwitz).
Contact them at
Archiwum Państwowe w Katowicach
Oddział w Gliwicach
ul. Zygmunta Starego 8
Telefon: +48 32 2314440
The records AFTER 1916 are stored somewhere else: at
Urząd Stanu Cywilnego - Zabrze
ul. Wolności 211
Telefon: +48 32 37 33 585
Fax: +48 32 37 33 582
Check this site for further links to church records, etc.
Are there Address and phone books?
Yes, there are! 1908-1938 for address books, and one (only one) phone book for 1928. Browse them here. http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Kategorie:Adressbuch_f%C3%BCr_Hindenburg_(Schlesien)
There's no entry for "Haftel", but für "Rader, Barisch" in 1924. He had a shop for clothes and texiles in the road "Kirchstraße 2" (2, Church Street) in Hindenburg.
You can read his entry on page 111 on the left.
1929: no entry any more! As you can see here.
Phone book of 1928: is, sadly, not digitized, but it exists. Maybe you can order it in as an interlibrary loan?
Jewish burial records: can be found here > http://cybercity.de/scripts/CC.dll?T=KBA:KBAresult&F=KBA&action=mainlist&ref_id=20962
1924 vs. 1929
This struck my eye. If you compare the inhabitant lists that are just 5 years apart, this is noticeable.
"Berith" Rader is mentioned to live at a house in "Kirchgasse 2" - and also another (possibly?) Jewish merchant called Moses Tobias. Five years later, they are gone.
Here, Barisch is mentionend in the 1925 "Yellow Pages" as well (textile merchant). (Source here: Ancestry. com)
The records for shops (similar to the Yellow Pages) who deal with textiles don't mention the father Barisch or Berith Rader any more.
1929 address list: There's even a list for each house, and all of the inhabitants in 1929. However, Barisch and his shop are not mentioned any more. Under Kirchstr. 2 (Church Street no. 2), several other merchants live there now...
One does even advertise in the phone book. It's Mr. Augustin, and he runs a hardware store.
It's probable that there were several stores in one house, however, it might be possible that one of these merchants or shop owner has replaced Mr. Barisch Rader's shop. However, it was not Mr. Augustin, as he already was there in 1924.
Did the father "Berith"/Barisch Rader also leave for Israel, or not? Is it possible they had already left in or before 1929?
And a few more sources:
Postcards that show how Hindenburg looked like: https://www.ansichtskartenversand.com/ak/index.php?search=standard&searchword=%22hindenburg%20osten%22&equal=1&id=5690
Where was Kirchstraße, where Barisch lived? It was near Kaniastraße. Near to the synagoge.
1813, but the next image is from 1915.
This source says: Jewish people were protected (and not prosecuted) until 1935. However, after that date, they were brought to the concentration camps. The synagogue was destroyed in 1938. When WW2 started in 1939, there were only 500 Jewish people left in Hindenburg; and the Germans erected concentration camps in Hindenburg which were run by Auschwitz.
Here's more information in Englisch and Hebrew:
The Jewish Community of Zabrze (known as Hindenburg between 1915 und 1945), in: Beit Hatfutsot – The Museum oft the Jewish People, online abrufbar unter: http://dbs.bh.org.il/place/zabrze
... mentions the region belonged to Germany for a while. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zabrze (German) and English: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zabrze#Early_20th_century
Maybe also https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kreis_Hindenburg_O.S. (German)
...has quite a few interesting photos right now: https://www.ebay.at/sch/i.html?_fsrp=1&_nkw=zabrze+hindenburg&_oaa=1
The most interesting are:
How did your ancestors live? In what area? This is one of the adjusting Streets, Kaniastr. You can suspect that the houses in Kirchstraße looked similar: small shops on the street level; appartements in the first, second floor.
A package with many photos, also from the 1930s
Two books (German)
How your ancestors might have dressed: https://www.ebay.at/itm/2-x-CDV-Photo-Gustav-Juncker-Atelier-in-Zabrze-und-Hindenburg-ca-1910-1920/293037938983
And finally, a "Virtual Stetl", a source on Jewish live in Hindenburg: https://sztetl.org.pl/de/stadte/z/72-zabrze/112-synagogen-gebetshauser-und-andere/90260-synagoge-zabrze-hindenburg
You can contact them, too, if you have further questions: POLIN Museum of the History of Polish Jews
Mordechaja Anielewicza Straße 6
And again, the colleagues at Arolsen archives are happy to help you as well, submit your inquiry here: https://arolsen-archives.org/en/search-explore/inquiries/submit-inquiry/