Can you provide your ancestor name to better assist you.
Thank you. His name was Casper Collier, and on his gravestone, it says Col. Casper Collier. But his first name could also have been Caspar, Casperus. And his last name could also have been spelled Calyer or Kalyer. But someone in the family has a veteran burial card that said he served May 1812 to 1816 in the sixth infantry regiment. I can't find any evidence of that!
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Please copy and paste this link into your web browser. Let me know if you think this is your guy?
Also you might want to try reaching out to the following New York State Archives. http://www.archives.nysed.gov/research/res_topics_mi_warsvc.shtml
Sixth regiment of infantry:
Resolved, that Richard R. Vandenbergh be no longer lieutenant colonel of the Sixth regiment of infantry, and that a supersedeas issue accordingly.
Casper Collier, lieutenant colonel, vice Vandenbergh, superseded; Martin G. Van Bergen, first major, vice Collier, promoted; Asa Palmer, second major, vice Van Bergen, promoted. https://sites.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2/military_minutes_of_the_council_of_appointments_of_the_state_of_new_york_1783-1821.…
Hope this helps,
Yes, that's it! This is amazingly helpful and I found a whole group of other ancestors there too, of course. Many many thanks.
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He is a page from Archives.gov with a list of soldiers who participated in
the War of 1812.
Good Luck in your search.
Thank you! Yes, I had found that list, but my ancestor was not on it. I did find it elsewhere though, which is confusing.
Dear Ms. Bruno,
Thank you for posting your request on History Hub!
Researching War of 1812 service can be complicated because there were regular army, volunteer, and militia units, each of which are documented in different ways by different organizations, and in many cases the relevant records have not survived to the present time. To further complicate things, some members or units of the state militia joined the regular army during the War, and some who served during the War may have also served in their state militias after the war. Also, during the War of 1812, the US Army did not have the current system of creating a single Official Military Personnel Folder which consolidated all the key paperwork about each soldier into a single file.
We searched the Indexes to the Carded Records of Soldiers Who Served in Volunteer Organizations During the War of 1812 (for officer and enlisted volunteers) in the Registers of Enlistments in the United States Army, 1798 - 1914 (for enlisted regular army soldiers) in the Records of the Adjutant General's Office, 1762 -1917 (Record Group 94) but were unable to locate a match for Casper Collier or the variant names your provided. Please note that the carded records for volunteers were not created until the 1890s and the 1798-1815 volume for the Registers of Enlistments was created in the 1880s, so if there were gaps in the muster rolls and other records used by the Adjutant General's Office to create these two series, there may have been some soldiers whose service was not noted in the Carded Records and the Registers.
Unfortunately there are no consolidated service records for regular Army officers from this time period. It is sometimes possible to locate information about regular Army and volunteer officers in Letters Received, 1805 - 1889 in Record Group 94 that is partially indexed by Indexes to Letters Received, 1812 - 1889 also in Record Group 94.
If he served in the 6th U.S. Infantry Regiment, which recruited in New York, there may be information about him in the regimental records. We searched the National Archives Catalog and located 11 record series with records pertaining to the 6th U.S. Infantry Regiment.
In regards to the War of 1812 Discharge Certificates Appendix III: List of Soldiers by Name referenced by Ms. Lane, this list is not a comprehensive list of soldiers that fought in the War of 1812. Rather it is an index for soldiers for which records can be found in the "Miscellaneous" folders of the National Archives Microfilm Publication M1856, Discharge Certificates and Miscellaneous Records Relating to the Discharge of Soldiers from the Regular Army, 1792-1815. These records relate solely to the discharge of soldiers from the regular Army; no militiamen or volunteers are included. Furthermore, soldiers whose records are in the “Company” folders but not the “Miscellaneous” folders are not listed in Appendix III or any other Appendix. Please review War of 1812 Discharge Certificates for more context regarding Appendix III.
For more information about the records at the National Archives, please contact the National Archives at Washington, DC - Textual Reference (RDT1) at Archives1reference@nara.gov. Due to the COVID-19 pandemic and pursuant to guidance received from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), NARA has adjusted its normal operations to balance the need of completing its mission-critical work while also adhering to the recommended social distancing for the safety of NARA staff. As a result of this re-prioritization of activities, you may experience a delay in receiving an initial acknowledgement as well as a substantive response to your reference request from RDT1. We apologize for this inconvenience and appreciate your understanding and patience.
Next, we searched the Historical Register and Dictionary of the United States Army: From Its Organization, September 29, 1789, to March 2, 1903, Volume 1 and Army Registers, 1798-1969, which provides information about Regular Army officers but were unable to locate the name of the person you seek.
Muster rolls and a few orderly books for the 6th U.S. Infantry Regiment are at the New York State Archives. There are orderly books at the Owen D. Young Library at St. Lawrence University in Albany, at the Ticonderoga Historical Society, and at the U.S. Army Heritage and Education Center in Carlisle, PA.
Based on the information that Mr. Schneider located for you, he was an officer in the New York State Militia both before and after the War of 1812, and it may be that his service during the War of 1812 was in a New York militia or volunteer regiment rather than the 6th U.S. Infantry Regiment. We concur with his suggestion to contact the New York State Archives regarding militia records. Additionally, the New York State Library has many documentary resources for the study of New York's role in the War of 1812.
Lastly, we searched online and located proceedings and reports of the New York State Bar Association, published 1910, that includes an obituary for Casper P. Collier, grandson of the Casper Collier you are researching. The obituary briefly references Casper Collier (referred to as Major Casper Collier) as well other family members.
We hope this is helpful. Best of luck with your family research!
Dear Mr. Atkinson,
Thank you so much -- that explains the discrepancy. I can't thank you enough. I'm also trying to determine whether these militias actually saw much fighting during the War of 1812, since I found one historian account noting that many of the militias were poorly trained and prone to desertion. If you could recommend a book or site that might offer details on whether any soldiers from Greene County, New York, actually participated in any battles, I would be grateful. I'm trying to build out a timeline of Casper Collier's life, and this was clearly an important part of his life.
All the best,