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Re: Seeking information on John Goetz
Susannah Brooks Sep 21, 2020 1:12 PM (in response to Crystal Davis)1 person found this helpfulThe Altoona PA newspapers had articles that show that the parents of your ancestor were William J. (or John William) Goetz and Ellen Guinivan. From various articles (I found them on Newspapers.com) show that William was a tailor, then a policeman, and then a tailor again.
from Altoona Times 23 Apr 1889
William and Ellen's other son died in 1890.
from Altoona Tribune 25 Jan 1900
William remarried in 1892 or 1893. His new wife was Mame Redding and they had a son named Wallace.
John visited his father in 1912
from Altoona Times 10 May 1912
John William Goetz died in 1921.
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Re: Seeking information on John Goetz
Crystal Davis Sep 21, 2020 11:12 PM (in response to Susannah Brooks)Oh my gosh! Thank you so much!! This is incredibly helpful!
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Re: Seeking information on John Goetz
Grace Yuhasz Sep 21, 2020 6:53 PM (in response to Crystal Davis)1 person found this helpfulConcerning William (John William) Goetz, the possible father:
Using census entries, city directories, and the Pennsylvania death certificate of John W. Goetz, as well as the information Susannah Brooks mentioned, you can piece together that his occupation was tailor. He died in 1921 (his death certificate is on Ancestry.com). All of this information may help you going forward.
I didn’t find mention of John William and Ellen Guinivan’s marriage in the Altoona newspapers on Newspapers.com. Nor did I find an obituary for John William. They may be worth looking for.
From Find-A-Grave
John W. (William) Goetz
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/90875006/john-w-goetz
John Guinivan
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/88764090/john-guinivan
Mary A. Somers
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/83181004/mary-a.-somers
There is a stone listed for Ellie Guinivan, born 1864. The poster states the stone is hard to read so no death date can be read. This may or may not be the Ellie under discussion.
From Newspapers.com
Death of John Guinivan
Altoona Tribune
Feb 8, 1892
Says he has a daughter Mrs. James KaylorDeath of Mary Guinivan
Altoona Tribune
April 21, 1892Says daughter Johanna, wife of James Kaylor
Death of Mary A. Somers
Altoona Tribune
Apr. 4, 1946Husband Michael. Father John Guinivan, sister is Mrs. James Kaylor
These articles indicate there is a family connection between all of these people. If Mary A. Somers was John Raymond’s maternal aunt, then everything fits. (Of course, it would require more of a paper trail, but it shows we are on the right track. I didn’t include everything I found on Newspapers.com and elsewhere.) After a quick search of probate indexes, I didn’t locate anything to help.Since the newspaper articles indicate that William & Ellie Goetz were Catholic, I suggest you contact the St. John’s Roman Catholic Church in Altoona. They may have a marriage record for the parents, as well as a baptismal record for John Raymond.
There also may be Altoona/Blair County resources that could help you -- historical or genealogical society, or library that could assist you.
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Re: Seeking information on John Goetz
Crystal Davis Sep 25, 2020 6:54 PM (in response to Grace Yuhasz)Thank you so much!!
I do believe this is the information I have been looking for!
I will definitely contact the St. John's Roman Catholic Church in Altoona as well as any county resources I can find. Thank you so much for the information!
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