4 Replies Latest reply on Aug 27, 2020 12:31 PM by Jason Atkinson

    Seeking information about Rev J R Crowder

    Barbara Thompson Newbie

      I am researching the background of Rev. J. R. Crowder of Manatee, FL. He was to be the first pastor of the Methodist church. While the church was being constructed, yellow fever hit the area. Rev. Crowder and several of his parishioners perished as a result (1887-1888). I have no further information on him. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

        • Re: Seeking information about Rev J R Crowder
          Alice Lane Tracker

          Hi Barbara,

          Welcome to History

          Do you know what the initials J R are for?

          Thie followin is all that I found about Rev. Crowder

          Another Researcher might find more for you

           

           

          Rev J R Crowder on find a grave

          https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/201250021/j-r-crowder

          Article about the Epidemic of 1887

          https://www.bradenton.com/news/local/article36392217.html

          1880 Census

          Rev Crowder was a boarder in the home of a Physician R D Madrell in Gainesville Texas

          https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MFNM-LKB

          familysearch.org is a free website...you just need to register to search

           

          Alice Lane

          Research Volunteer

            • Re: Seeking information about Rev J R Crowder
              Barbara Thompson Newbie

              Thanks for the information, I do not know what R. J. stand for.  The Manatee Historical Society that maintains the cemetery that he is buried in is the organization that I am doing research for.  We have very little on him other than he was to be the first pastor in the new church building which is not located in the Manatee Historic Village.  The church foundation has a first 100 year history of the church. It is from this source that we learned he was to be the first pastor.

               

              The census that you quoted gave me more information because up to now I did not know where he was before now.

               

              Barbara

              • Re: Seeking information about Rev J R Crowder
                Barbara Thompson Newbie

                Hi, I have found additional information.  His first name was probably John and he lived in Gainesville, TX in 1850.

                 

                Thanks

              • Re: Seeking information about Rev J R Crowder
                Jason Atkinson Pioneer

                Dear Ms. Thompson,

                 

                Thank you for posting your request on History Hub!

                We searched the National Archives Catalog and located Population Schedules for the 1850 Census, 1850 - 1850; Population Schedules for the 1860 Census, 1860 - 1860; and Population Schedules for the 1880 Census, 1880 - 1880 in the Records of the Bureau of the Census (Record Group 29) that have entries pertaining to him. For information about accessing those  records, please see our Census: Records Introduction to Census Records page. For additional questions about access, please contact the National Archives at Washington, DC - Textual Reference (RDT1) via email at Archives1reference@nara.gov.

                 

                Ms. Lane already shared the 1880 census records.  Below is a summary of the 1850 and 1860 entries that may be a match for him.

                 

                John R Crowder  in the 1850 United States Federal Census

                 

                 

                Name:

                John R Crowder

                Gender:

                Male

                Age:

                5

                Birth Year:

                abt 1845

                Birthplace:

                Mississippi

                Home in 1850:

                South of the Yalobusha River, Yalobusha, Mississippi, USA

                Attended School:

                Y

                Line Number:

                33

                Dwelling Number:

                158

                Family Number:

                158

                Household Members:


                Name

                Age

                R H Crowder

                44

                Virginia Crowder

                30

                Lucy Crowder

                78

                Mary D Crowder

                14

                Lenora B Crowder

                12

                Mary L Crowder

                10

                Jonas B Crowder

                9

                George G Crowder

                7

                John R Crowder

                5

                Leonora M Patton

                20

                 

                John Crowder in the 1860 United States Federal Census.

                 

                 

                Name:

                John Crowder

                Age:

                14

                Birth Year:

                abt 1846

                Gender:

                Male

                Birth Place:

                Mississippi

                Home in 1860:

                S W Beat, Yalobusha, Mississippi

                Post Office:

                Oakland

                Dwelling Number:

                517

                Family Number:

                565

                Attended School:

                Yes

                Household Members:


                Name

                Age

                R D Crowder

                54

                Virginia S Crowder

                40

                James Crowder

                18

                George Crowder

                17

                John Crowder

                14

                R D Crowder

                9

                Mary E Crowder

                16

                Alena Crowder

                6

                Nancy R Crowder

                2

                 

                 

                Using NARA’s institutional subscription to Ancestry, we searched Ancestry and located a source that was uploaded by an Ancestry user 23PatB labeled the Family Death Records from Gage Family Bible. We are attaching a copy to the end of our reply. This document was attached to a user generated Bickerstaff family tree. We are attaching a screenshot of the relevant entry for him.

                 

                Please note that the Find-A-Grave listing and the 1880 Census give Tennessee as his place of birth, while the Ancestry entry gives Mississippi as his place of birth. The Ancestry family tree listing cites 1850 and 1860 census records for his place of birth. All three censuses indicate that his parents were born in Tennessee. Census takers generally took information from the either head of the household or whoever happened to answer the door, and they did not require that documentation be produced to verify things such as age and place of birth. It is not unusual to find contradictory information regarding lodgers or servants whose information may have been provided by someone that didn’t know their full life history. Neither the state of Tennessee nor the state of Mississippi had state issued birth certificates in 1845. You may wish to contact Methodist churches in these areas to inquire about baptismal records.

                 

                We also searched online and located PART VI HISTORICAL Roll of The Honored Dead The Florida Conference The Methodist Episcopal Church South with the following listing:

                Name: John R. Crowder

                Entered Itinerancy Date: 1874

                Entered Itinerancy Conference: North Texas

                Date of Death Place: Nov. 1, 1887

                Place of Death or Burial:  Manatee, FL

                 

                This would be consistent with him being a preacher in Gainesville, Texas in 1880, per the 1880 census records shared by Ms. Lane.

                 

                We also located the following reference to him in The Galveston Daily News

                Galveston, Texas 23 Nov 1880 regarding his transferring to the Florida Conference.

                 

                Given that you stated you are working for the local historical society, we presume that you have already exhausted the information available in back issues of local newspapers, local history collections at libraries, and historic records at county courthouses. If you have not already done so, you may wish to contact the Florida State Archives and the Florida State Library, the United Methodist Church General Commission on Archives and History, the Florida Conference of the United Methodist Church, the North Texas Conference of The United Methodist Church, and the First United Methodist Church, Gainesville TX.

                 

                We hope this information is helpful. Best of luck with your research!