7 Replies Latest reply on Aug 27, 2020 1:00 AM by Mary Hiber

    Seeking immigration/naturalization records for John Hiber

    Mary Hiber Newbie

      John Hiber/Heber (born on 5 Feb 1879) arrived in New York sometime between 1880-1887 from Luxembourg/Germany. He went directly to St. Paul, MN to live with his Uncle Peter Nickels. In 1901, he was living in Arland, Barron County, WI. I would like to find departure/arrival ship passenger lists and immigration/ naturalization papers. Thank you in advance.

        • Re: Seeking immigration/naturalization records for John Hiber
          Alice Lane Tracker

          Hi Mary,

          Welcome to History Hub,

           

          I found John Hiber on findagrave.com with his biography and photo of him and his wife. click on link below to see

          https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108400395/john-hiber

           

          Do you know if his uncle adopedt him and his sisters? or if their parents came to the United States?

           

           

          Alice Lane

          Research Volunteer

            • Re: Seeking immigration/naturalization records for John Hiber
              Mary Hiber Newbie

              Hi Alice!

              In the “History of Barron County, Wisconsin” there is a write up on John Hiber. It is assumed that Peter Nickels wife was Elizabeth Hiber.

               



              In sharing DNA, there is someone indirectly connected to John Hiber. According to the Genealogy Tree the match shows Nicholas Hiber connected to Nicholas T Hiber. If you need any further information, don’t hesitate to ask.

               

              Sincerely,

              Mary Hiber Watson

              • Re: Seeking immigration/naturalization records for John Hiber
                Mary Hiber Newbie

                Hi Alice!

                 

                Here is more information compiled from Wisconsin censuses 1900, 1905, 1910, and 1920.

                it appears that people not directly part of the family are listed as servant or boarder. In 1910 John Hiber is listed as nephew.

                 

                1900 Wisconsin

                Peter Nickels. Head

                Mary Nickels. Wife

                Lissie Nickels. Daughter

                John Hiber.      Servant 21. Parents - Luxembourg

                Mical Oberwies Servant, future husband of Lissie

                 

                1905  Wisconsin

                Peter Nickels. Head

                Mary Nickels. Wife

                Lissie Oberwies Daughter

                Mike Oberwies son in-law

                John Hiber  Boarder. Shows 24 should be 26

                 

                1910  Wisconsin

                Bler Nickels. Head

                Mary Nickels. Wife

                Mocchel Aberveis son in-law

                Elisabeth Aberveis. Daughter

                John Hiber. Nephew (4?0) should be 30 Parents Luxembourg/Germany

                 

                1920  Wisconsin

                JohnHiber - head (40). Immigration 1880 Naturalized NA Year Naturalized 1891 Parents Germany

                ElesibethHiber - wife

                MickelHiber - son

                LenaHiber - daughter

                BabHiber - son

                NicholsHiber - son

                JoeMiller - step-son

                AlbertMiller - step-son

                JohneyMiller - step-son

                Peter Miller - step-son

                 

                Born 15 Feb 1879 Hamm, Luxembourg, according to his Prayer Card

                Death 21 Apr 1928

                As you can see, some names are misspelled, I believe by the translator.

                 

                In a DNA connection

                DNA match

                I was unable to locate the source for Nicholas Hiber birth 1846. Among family members, John Hiber’s parents were never married. John Hiber made numerous trips to visit Hiber family in Minnesota however no one has ever specifically revealed who and their relationships.

                 

                Hope this will help in locating the Naturalization papers. If he was naturalized through his father and his father’s name is Nicholas T. Hiber, it will certainly add to the family story.

                 

                I really appreciate any help or direction you can offer me.


                Sincerely,

                Mary Hiber

              • Re: Seeking immigration/naturalization records for John Hiber
                Susannah Brooks Scout

                When John Hiber registered for the WWI draft in 1918 he stated that he was a citizen through his father's naturalization while John was still a minor.  So far I can find no indication that his parents came to the US. 

                I did find the arrival of John's uncle, aunt, and their daughter on the SS Nederland arriving in Philadelphia on 12 March 1881  Since families often traveled the same routes, I hoped this would help me find John and his sisters, but so far that is a dead-end.

                  • Re: Seeking immigration/naturalization records for John Hiber
                    Mary Hiber Newbie

                    Hi Susannah!

                     

                    I sent the following to Alice, regarding John Hiber:

                     

                    Here is more information compiled from Wisconsin censuses 1900, 1905, 1910, and 1920.

                    it appears that people not directly part of the family are listed as servant or boarder. In 1910 John Hiber is listed as nephew.

                     

                    1900 Wisconsin

                    Peter Nickels. Head

                    Mary Nickels. Wife

                    Lissie Nickels. Daughter

                    John Hiber.      Servant 21. Parents - Luxembourg

                    Mical Oberwies Servant, future husband of Lissie

                     

                    1905  Wisconsin

                    Peter Nickels. Head

                    Mary Nickels. Wife

                    Lissie Oberwies Daughter

                    Mike Oberwies son in-law

                    John Hiber  Boarder. Shows 24 should be 26

                     

                    1910  Wisconsin

                    Peter Nickels. Head

                    Mary Nickels. Wife

                    Mocchel Aberveis son in-law

                    Elisabeth Aberveis. Daughter

                    John Hiber. Nephew (4?0) should be 30 Parents Luxembourg/Germany

                     

                    1920  Wisconsin

                    JohnHiber - head (40). Immigration 1880 Naturalized NA Year Naturalized 1891 Parents Germany

                    ElesibethHiber - wife

                    MickelHiber - son

                    LenaHiber - daughter

                    BabHiber - son

                    NicholsHiber - son

                    JoeMiller - step-son

                    AlbertMiller - step-son

                    JohneyMiller - step-son

                    Peter Miller - step-son

                     

                    Born 15 Feb 1879 Hamm, Luxembourg, according to his Prayer Card

                    Death 21 Apr 1928

                    As you can see, some names are misspelled, I believe by the translator.

                    DNA Hiber connection

                    I was unable to locate the source for Nicholas Hiber birth 1846. Among family members, John Hiber’s parents were never married. John Hiber made numerous trips to visit Hiber family in Minnesota however no one has ever specifically revealed who and their relationships.

                     

                     

                    Hope this will help in locating the Naturalization papers. If he was naturalized through his father and his father’s name is Nicholas T. Hiber, it will certainly add to the family story.

                     

                    I really appreciate any help or direction you can offer me.

                     

                    Sincerely,

                    Mary Hiber

                  • Re: Seeking immigration/naturalization records for John Hiber
                    Cara Jensen Scout

                    Dear Ms. HIber,

                     

                    Thank you for posting your request on History Hub!

                     

                    We searched the National Archives Catalog and located the series Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897 ( M237) in the Records of the U.S. Customs Service, (Record Group 36) that may contain records of John Hiber/Heber. For access to these series, please contact the National Archives at Washington, DC (RDT1) via email at archives1reference@nara.gov.

                     

                    The M237 passenger lists are available and searchable on Ancestry.com. There may be a fee for using Ancestry. Instead, check for access at your local library as many library systems subscribe to these sites, making them free for their patrons.

                     

                    We also searched the Access to Archival Databases (AAD) and located a database titled Germans to America Passenger Data File, 1850 - 1897 that includes 7 possible passenger records for John/Johann Heber and 1 possible record for Jos. Hiber. To locate the arrival date, ship name, and port of departure information associated with an individual passenger record, search the Manifest Header Data File in AAD using the manifest identification number listed in the passenger record. Please refer to the FAQs for more details.

                     

                    We also suggest that you review the NARA publication on Immigration Records, the article on Genealogy: Passenger Arrival List Research Tips as well as the FamilySearch Research wiki for United States Emigration and Immigration Genealogy

                     

                    Beginning on September 27, 1906, the responsibility for naturalization proceedings was transferred to the Federal courts. If a naturalization took place in a Federal court, naturalization indexes, declarations of intention (with any accompanying certificates of arrival), and petitions for naturalization will usually be in the custody of the National Archives facility serving the state in which the Federal court is located.

                    Unfortunately, no central index exists. To ensure a successful request, please include the name of petitioner (including known variants); date of birth; approximate date of entry to the US; approximate date of naturalization; where the individual was residing at the time of naturalization (city/county/state); and country of origin.

                    In most cases, the National Archives will not have a copy of the certificate of citizenship. Two copies of the certificate were created – one given to the petitioner as proof of citizenship, and one forwarded to the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS).

                    Certificates of citizenship were issued by the Federal courts until October 1991 when INS took over responsibility for naturalization proceedings. All INS records are now overseen by the US Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). USCIS maintains duplicate copies of court records (including the certificate of citizenship) created since September 27, 1906 and may be requested through the USCIS Genealogy Program.

                     

                    Due to the COVID-19 pandemic and pursuant to guidance received from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), NARA has adjusted its normal operations to balance the need of completing its mission-critical work while also adhering to the recommended social distancing for the safety of NARA staff. As a result of this re-prioritization of activities, you may experience a delay in receiving an initial acknowledgement as well as a substantive response to your reference request from RDT1 and other NARA units. We apologize for this inconvenience and appreciate your understanding and patience.

                    We hope this is helpful. Best of luck with your family research!

                     

                    • Re: Seeking immigration/naturalization records for John Hiber
                      Alice Lane Tracker

                      Hi Mary,

                      Peter Nickels in 1900 census..John Hiber is listed as a servant...shows PA for naturalizations which means he has filled out papers.

                      https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMVY-WD6

                       

                      The reason that I ask about a possible adoption by Peter Nickels was because on John's draft registration he stated that he became a citizen through his father's naturalization, but did his parents come to America?

                       

                      Alice Lane

                      Research Volunteer