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Re: Seeking immigration/naturalization records for John Hiber
Alice Lane Aug 21, 2020 1:47 PM (in response to Mary Hiber)Hi Mary,
Welcome to History Hub,
I found John Hiber on findagrave.com with his biography and photo of him and his wife. click on link below to see
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108400395/john-hiber
Do you know if his uncle adopedt him and his sisters? or if their parents came to the United States?
Alice Lane
Research Volunteer
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Re: Seeking immigration/naturalization records for John Hiber
Mary Hiber Aug 21, 2020 5:25 PM (in response to Alice Lane)Hi Alice!
In the “History of Barron County, Wisconsin” there is a write up on John Hiber. It is assumed that Peter Nickels wife was Elizabeth Hiber.
In sharing DNA, there is someone indirectly connected to John Hiber. According to the Genealogy Tree the match shows Nicholas Hiber connected to Nicholas T Hiber. If you need any further information, don’t hesitate to ask.Sincerely,
Mary Hiber Watson
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Re: Seeking immigration/naturalization records for John Hiber
Mary Hiber Aug 27, 2020 1:00 AM (in response to Alice Lane)Hi Alice!
Here is more information compiled from Wisconsin censuses 1900, 1905, 1910, and 1920.
it appears that people not directly part of the family are listed as servant or boarder. In 1910 John Hiber is listed as nephew.
1900 Wisconsin
Peter Nickels. Head
Mary Nickels. Wife
Lissie Nickels. Daughter
John Hiber. Servant 21. Parents - Luxembourg
Mical Oberwies Servant, future husband of Lissie
1905 Wisconsin
Peter Nickels. Head
Mary Nickels. Wife
Lissie Oberwies Daughter
Mike Oberwies son in-law
John Hiber Boarder. Shows 24 should be 26
1910 Wisconsin
Bler Nickels. Head
Mary Nickels. Wife
Mocchel Aberveis son in-law
Elisabeth Aberveis. Daughter
John Hiber. Nephew (4?0) should be 30 Parents Luxembourg/Germany
1920 Wisconsin
JohnHiber - head (40). Immigration 1880 Naturalized NA Year Naturalized 1891 Parents Germany
ElesibethHiber - wife
MickelHiber - son
LenaHiber - daughter
BabHiber - son
NicholsHiber - son
JoeMiller - step-son
AlbertMiller - step-son
JohneyMiller - step-son
Peter Miller - step-son
Born 15 Feb 1879 Hamm, Luxembourg, according to his Prayer Card
Death 21 Apr 1928
As you can see, some names are misspelled, I believe by the translator.
In a DNA connection
I was unable to locate the source for Nicholas Hiber birth 1846. Among family members, John Hiber’s parents were never married. John Hiber made numerous trips to visit Hiber family in Minnesota however no one has ever specifically revealed who and their relationships.
Hope this will help in locating the Naturalization papers. If he was naturalized through his father and his father’s name is Nicholas T. Hiber, it will certainly add to the family story.
I really appreciate any help or direction you can offer me.
Sincerely,Mary Hiber
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Re: Seeking immigration/naturalization records for John Hiber
Susannah Brooks Aug 21, 2020 3:27 PM (in response to Mary Hiber)When John Hiber registered for the WWI draft in 1918 he stated that he was a citizen through his father's naturalization while John was still a minor. So far I can find no indication that his parents came to the US.
I did find the arrival of John's uncle, aunt, and their daughter on the SS Nederland arriving in Philadelphia on 12 March 1881 Since families often traveled the same routes, I hoped this would help me find John and his sisters, but so far that is a dead-end.
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Re: Seeking immigration/naturalization records for John Hiber
Mary Hiber Aug 27, 2020 1:27 AM (in response to Susannah Brooks)Hi Susannah!
I sent the following to Alice, regarding John Hiber:
Here is more information compiled from Wisconsin censuses 1900, 1905, 1910, and 1920.
it appears that people not directly part of the family are listed as servant or boarder. In 1910 John Hiber is listed as nephew.
1900 Wisconsin
Peter Nickels. Head
Mary Nickels. Wife
Lissie Nickels. Daughter
John Hiber. Servant 21. Parents - Luxembourg
Mical Oberwies Servant, future husband of Lissie
1905 Wisconsin
Peter Nickels. Head
Mary Nickels. Wife
Lissie Oberwies Daughter
Mike Oberwies son in-law
John Hiber Boarder. Shows 24 should be 26
1910 Wisconsin
Peter Nickels. Head
Mary Nickels. Wife
Mocchel Aberveis son in-law
Elisabeth Aberveis. Daughter
John Hiber. Nephew (4?0) should be 30 Parents Luxembourg/Germany
1920 Wisconsin
JohnHiber - head (40). Immigration 1880 Naturalized NA Year Naturalized 1891 Parents Germany
ElesibethHiber - wife
MickelHiber - son
LenaHiber - daughter
BabHiber - son
NicholsHiber - son
JoeMiller - step-son
AlbertMiller - step-son
JohneyMiller - step-son
Peter Miller - step-son
Born 15 Feb 1879 Hamm, Luxembourg, according to his Prayer Card
Death 21 Apr 1928
As you can see, some names are misspelled, I believe by the translator.
I was unable to locate the source for Nicholas Hiber birth 1846. Among family members, John Hiber’s parents were never married. John Hiber made numerous trips to visit Hiber family in Minnesota however no one has ever specifically revealed who and their relationships.
Hope this will help in locating the Naturalization papers. If he was naturalized through his father and his father’s name is Nicholas T. Hiber, it will certainly add to the family story.
I really appreciate any help or direction you can offer me.
Sincerely,
Mary Hiber
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Re: Seeking immigration/naturalization records for John Hiber
Cara JensenAug 26, 2020 10:40 AM (in response to Mary Hiber)
Dear Ms. HIber,
Thank you for posting your request on History Hub!
We searched the National Archives Catalog and located the series Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897 ( M237) in the Records of the U.S. Customs Service, (Record Group 36) that may contain records of John Hiber/Heber. For access to these series, please contact the National Archives at Washington, DC (RDT1) via email at archives1reference@nara.gov.
The M237 passenger lists are available and searchable on Ancestry.com. There may be a fee for using Ancestry. Instead, check for access at your local library as many library systems subscribe to these sites, making them free for their patrons.
We also searched the Access to Archival Databases (AAD) and located a database titled Germans to America Passenger Data File, 1850 - 1897 that includes 7 possible passenger records for John/Johann Heber and 1 possible record for Jos. Hiber. To locate the arrival date, ship name, and port of departure information associated with an individual passenger record, search the Manifest Header Data File in AAD using the manifest identification number listed in the passenger record. Please refer to the FAQs for more details.
We also suggest that you review the NARA publication on Immigration Records, the article on Genealogy: Passenger Arrival List Research Tips as well as the FamilySearch Research wiki for United States Emigration and Immigration Genealogy.
Beginning on September 27, 1906, the responsibility for naturalization proceedings was transferred to the Federal courts. If a naturalization took place in a Federal court, naturalization indexes, declarations of intention (with any accompanying certificates of arrival), and petitions for naturalization will usually be in the custody of the National Archives facility serving the state in which the Federal court is located.
Unfortunately, no central index exists. To ensure a successful request, please include the name of petitioner (including known variants); date of birth; approximate date of entry to the US; approximate date of naturalization; where the individual was residing at the time of naturalization (city/county/state); and country of origin.
In most cases, the National Archives will not have a copy of the certificate of citizenship. Two copies of the certificate were created – one given to the petitioner as proof of citizenship, and one forwarded to the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS).
Certificates of citizenship were issued by the Federal courts until October 1991 when INS took over responsibility for naturalization proceedings. All INS records are now overseen by the US Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). USCIS maintains duplicate copies of court records (including the certificate of citizenship) created since September 27, 1906 and may be requested through the USCIS Genealogy Program.
Due to the COVID-19 pandemic and pursuant to guidance received from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), NARA has adjusted its normal operations to balance the need of completing its mission-critical work while also adhering to the recommended social distancing for the safety of NARA staff. As a result of this re-prioritization of activities, you may experience a delay in receiving an initial acknowledgement as well as a substantive response to your reference request from RDT1 and other NARA units. We apologize for this inconvenience and appreciate your understanding and patience.
We hope this is helpful. Best of luck with your family research!
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Re: Seeking immigration/naturalization records for John Hiber
Alice Lane Aug 26, 2020 4:40 PM (in response to Mary Hiber)Hi Mary,
Peter Nickels in 1900 census..John Hiber is listed as a servant...shows PA for naturalizations which means he has filled out papers.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMVY-WD6
The reason that I ask about a possible adoption by Peter Nickels was because on John's draft registration he stated that he became a citizen through his father's naturalization, but did his parents come to America?
Alice Lane
Research Volunteer