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Re: Seeking Certificate of Naturalization for Hermann Neumann
Hi Stuart,
Welcome to History Hub,
Are you familiar with familysearch.org...it is a free website to search for ancestors..it is free but you will need to register.
I found this...it is not a naturalization but shows an arrival date and has a photo of Hans Neumann. Is this him.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:41MS-N26Z
Alice Lane
Volunteer Researcher
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Re: Seeking Certificate of Naturalization for Hermann Neumann
That is a naturalization file if you go through the next 4 pages. Unfortunately it does not match the information that Mr. Neumann gave for his father.
This is the petition for naturalization (found on ancestry.com)
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Re: Seeking Certificate of Naturalization for Hermann Neumann
Susannah,
It is an immigrant identification card....what do you mean by the next four pages? What did not match?
I don't have a subscription to Ancestry.
Alice Lane
Volunteer Researcher
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Re: Seeking Certificate of Naturalization for Hermann Neumann
Ms Lane,
If you click on your link to the immigration card on familysearch.org, which I did. When you bring up the image you can click page by page through the 4 page file (immigration card, declaration of intention (has the photo), 2 pages of the petition for naturalization). When I said it did not match, I meant that it is the wrong person (wrong dates, wrong places, etc).
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Re: Seeking Certificate of Naturalization for Hermann Neumann
Susannah,
Isn't right or wrong person something for the requester to decide. I won't pass up something close and not show it, when it could be the right one. There are too many inaccurracies to pass on anything that might be relevant, might be a relative. Like I said, it is for the requestor to decide. I realize that you have been on History Hub for a while and any little hints that you want to throw my way are appreciated.
Thanks
Alice Lane
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Re: Seeking Certificate of Naturalization for Hermann Neumann
Alice,
I agree with you 100%, but only reason I said it was the wrong person in this instance was because the requester was very specific about the person, place, dates he was looking for.
Susannah
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Re: Seeking Certificate of Naturalization for Hermann Neumann
Hi Susannah:
The Petition for Naturalization for Hermann Hans Neumann that you found on Ancestry.com is in fact for my father. He applied for Naturalization when he was a soldier in the U.S. Army at Ft. Bliss in El Paso, Texas in 1943. What are the next 4 pages that you referred to in your email note? How can I find my father's actual Certificate of Naturalization as a U.S. Citizen that was issued the the U.S. government? Thanks so much for your continued cooperation and assistance.
Best wishes -
- Stuart
Stuart Neumann
814 N. Melrose Hill
Los Angeles, CA. 90029
(323) 698-6899
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Re: Seeking Certificate of Naturalization for Hermann Neumann
The 4 pages I referred to was for the other Hans Neumann that was found by the other researcher. Your Hermann Hans Neumann's file has 2 pages. If you have access to Ancestry.com the link is https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/2509/images/42371_1220705043_1071-00023?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&query…
I am not certain that a copy of the original naturalization certificate (not the declaration or petition) was kept by the government -- I have never seen one in a naturalization file, but CIS (citizenship & naturalization service) may have a copy. The original was given to the new citizen.
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