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    Seeking records about James & Ellen Dermoody & family

    Kaye Schreuders Newbie
    Kaye Schreuders May 29, 2020 2:39 PM

      Good Afternoon, I am researching my family history and in desperate need of assistance. The information I have at hand is as follows:

       

      James Dermoody Born Liverpool England 1821c

      Ellen Connor Born Ireland 1828c

      Ellen & James Marry 12th August 1847 Old St Mary Philadelphia

      Children born:   Elizabeth 1848 Philadelphia

                                Maryann 1850 White Deer

                               John Franklin 1852 Un Known

      1850 United States Federal Census White Deer, Union, Pennsylvania USA

      James     Dermoody       Age        27

      Ellen       Dermoody       Age        22

      Eliza        Dermoody       Age        2

      Maryann  Dermoody       Age       0

       

      Another Census for 1850 has the exact information but the surname is spelt Denwoody.

       

      The 1860 White Deer Census has

      John Dermudy                  Male                     Age 8

      Maryann Dermudy            Female                 Age 10

      Thomas Coner                  Male                     Age 22

      Charlotte Coner                Female                 Age 19

      Ester Coner                      Female                 Age 60

       

      I know James migrated to Australia in 1853, returning to USA in 1863 and returns to Australia with his three children. I cannot find any information:

      • Where do Thomas Charlotte & Ester fit into the family?
      • There is no mention of Ellen or Eliza/Elizabeth in 1860 Census
      • Where are they?
      • What happened to Ellen and the children between 1852 and 1863?..
      • When did Ellen arrived in America are there  any record for her parents?
      • When did James arrived in America are there any records of his parents?
      • Ellen’s Death.
      • Where is Ellen Buried

      Any information/assistance in filling in the gaps will be truly appreciated. Many thanks in anticipation!

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        • Re: Seeking records about James & Ellen Dermoody & family
          Rebecca Collier Ranger
          Rebecca Collier Expert Jun 5, 2020 11:23 PM (in response to Kaye Schreuders)

          Dear Ms. Schreuders,

           

          Thank you for posting your request on History Hub!

           

          Until January 1, 1820, the U.S. Federal Government did not require captains or masters of vessels to present a passenger list to U.S. officials. Thus, as a general rule, NARA does not have passenger lists of vessels arriving before January 1, 1820. There are, however, two exceptions to this general rule: Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New Orleans, Louisiana, 1813-1849 (M2009) and Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 1800-1882 (M425 & M360). For more information, please see NARA’s Immigration Records web page.

           

          The departure from the U.S. to Australia likely is not recorded formally anywhere in U.S. Federal records, but it is possible to find their arrival in Australia.  For records in Australia, we suggest you contact the National Archives of Australia for immigration and citizenship and the

          National Library of Australia for shipping and passenger records. If they happened to arrive through Victoria, we suggest searching the Victoria Coastal Passenger Lists, 1852-1924 on FamilySearch. 

           

          For the return to the US, there should be a recording of their arrival back in the US but without a known port of arrival, you may need to be open minded about possible locations where the family may have reentered (even considering the possibility that the family may have ultimately reentered the US overland, which was not recorded at that time). Again, looking for a record from Australia is a possibility. If they happened to depart through Victoria, we suggest searching the Victoria, Outward Passenger Lists, 1852-1924 on FamilySearch.

           

          We hope this information is helpful. Best of luck with your family research!

           

          [Information provided by Elizabeth Burnes, Subject Matter Expert]