22 Replies Latest reply on May 26, 2020 2:36 PM by Linda Hindes

    Seeking information about this photograph from WWII

    Linda Hindes Wayfarer
    Linda Hindes May 26, 2020 2:36 PM

      Where was this photo taken? Of my dad, buddies, officer? He served in the Burma Campaign-Asia Pacific Theater-  WWII in a cart with large wheels driven by a local man who is possibly Indian. He served in the 1877th Engineer Aviation Battalion in Burma Central   He arrived in India on 13 February 1944. From dad's DD-214 -- Bronze Star Special Order #131, Hq, 1877 Eng. Avn dated 17 Nov 1944. --- Bronze Star-Central Burma Campaign.  Auth: 3rd Ind. Hq, USF, IBT, dtd 28 May 45 to Ltr, 930th Eng Avn Regt, dtd 15 May 45. Thank you for your interest.  Please share your findings.

       

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          Robert Casey May 23, 2020 9:50 PM (in response to Linda Hindes)

          Linda what unit did your father belong to in WWII. I am seeing the architecture that resembles Rangoon, Burma (today Yangon, Burma) but I want to check the unit to try and follow their unit history.

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              Linda Hindes Wayfarer
              Linda Hindes May 26, 2020 2:50 AM (in response to Robert Casey)

              Finally found how to respond to you.

              1877 Eng. Avn. Bn.   Burma Central - Arrived India 13 Feb. 1944.

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                Linda Hindes Wayfarer
                Linda Hindes May 26, 2020 2:42 PM (in response to Robert Casey)

                Reviewing military file:

                • Bronze Star Special Order #131, Hq, 1877 Eng. Avn dated 17 Nov 1944.
                • Bronze Star-Central Burma Campaign.  Auth: 3rd Ind. Hq, USF, IBT, dtd 28 May 45 to Ltr, 930th Eng Avn Regt, dtd 15 May 45.

                 

                Thank you for your interest.  Please share your findings.  

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                    Robert Casey May 26, 2020 4:52 PM (in response to Linda Hindes)

                    Linda thank you for the information. I have found a couple of interesting leads and I am interested to see where they take me. I will reach out when I have some results.

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                      Robert Casey May 30, 2020 6:53 PM (in response to Linda Hindes)

                      Linda I have found the history of your father's unit 1877th Engineer Aviation Batalion. They formed on 1 Mar 43 Venice, FL. They left Hampton Roads VA 16 Dec 43. They arrived in N.Africa 25 Dec 43. They went to  Chakulia, India on 13 Feb 44 where they constructed a B-29 facilities. As of 2 Oct 44 they were in Myitkyina, Burma, but Co A was in Mogaung, Burma. I could not find if Co A remained in Mogaung, Burma or ended up in  Myitkyina. The 930th Engr Avn Bn was also stationed in Myitkyina, Burma.

                       

                      The question is where was the picture taken. The building in the background is British Colonial Architecture.  There were two locations that jumped out to me and that was Rangoon (Yangor) Myanmar and Calcutta (Kolkata) India both have British Colonial architecture within the City. I have searched high and low for the same pattern on the building and have come up short. I then noticed the Hackney carriage they are in. The Hackney carriage was public transportation GIs would use in Calcutta in the 1940s. The building they were picked up in front of was Howrah Railway Station. The building is British Colonial, but the pattern doesn't match. I also noticed that the driver is Indian, not Burmese and that again would lead me towards Calcutta. Your father was stationed in Chakulia, India in 1944. Calcutta was approx. 4 hours to the east of Chakulia. GIs would visit Calcutta on leave during the war. I cannot say without a shadow of a doubt without finding the building in the background, but that is the best deduction. I have found a picture of a Hackney carriage in Calcutta from the 1940s with British soldiers that resembles the carriage in your picture.

                      Hackney Carriage Calcutta

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                          Linda Hindes Wayfarer
                          Linda Hindes May 31, 2020 9:10 PM (in response to Robert Casey)

                          You are amazing Mr. Casey!

                           

                          Thank you for your time and effort.  I, too, tried to Google buildings and architecture in Burma and India but never the carriage.

                           

                          Yes, my father was in North Africa per his records on 25 Dec 1943.  In fact, he had a tattoo on his forearm that read:  North Africa.   December 25 was his birthday and he would have been 21 years of age.

                           

                          I'll bet families of the other GI's riding with him would like to have this photo as well.  If only....

                          One man may have been an officer.  Just a thought from the cap he was wearing.

                           

                          I am proud to say that since we left California and retired here, I found a non-profit radio and learned to become an announcer for 6 years.  During that time I began recording our military veterans and their favorite song and/or story if they wished to share.  I pulled in a 99 year old WWII W.A.S.P and recorded our conversation.  She died two months later.    Another WWII vet was a 6-8 camp P.O.W. in the Philippines.

                          That was a long recall.  I am proud. 

                           

                          In the last 10 years I learned of a relative that I had never heard of.  He was killed in Korea.  A non-hostile helicopter crash during evacuation in low visibility in a minefield near Sanghu-Dong, Korea.  Bits and pieces are coming together now.  Finally.

                          Again,

                          You are appreciated.  Good luck with your research helping others.

                           

                          Linda Hindes

                          Sequim, Washington

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                              Robert Casey Jun 1, 2020 9:53 AM (in response to Linda Hindes)

                              I have deep connections with WWII. Both my grandfathers served in WWII. My biological Father's Dad was Navy as was one of his brothers and his other two brothers were Army. My Mother's Dad was Army and that is where my story begins. When my biological Father left, my Grandfather's best friend asked my mother to marry him. Even with 20 years difference between them it never was an issue. He was Army and served two tours in WWII. He served in the African campaign and the European campaign. He was married during his first tour. While he was in Africa his wife gave their kids up for adoption and left. When he came home and found out it destroyed him, and that's what led to the second tour. I heard the stories and learned the war through him. He passed in 1988 from brain cancer. It was because of him I became a military historian.

                               

                              I would still like to give it a shot to help find the people in the photo. I live an hour from Venice, FL. Venice has a big archives and being that is where 1877th formed they may have history on the 1877th. If those gentlemen in the picture were in the 1877th they may have photos of the soldiers. One issue we have of course is COVID-19 right now and the library is not open, but when they do open I can check it out.

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                        Phillip Bussey Sep 3, 2020 11:34 AM (in response to Linda Hindes)

                        Hi,

                        I liked quite a bit the earlier comments about the picture, and I don't have anything to add to that good work.

                         

                        For my two cents worth I'd suggest that your question may be a little narrow. My tip is to start with the Unit and work backwards, trying then to ID the picture by what you see in the photo plus the additional info you have on the unit. 

                         

                        My search first included a search on Google for similar photos, with no results.

                         

                        I next went back to the unit, and turned up some specific info on it and that of a sister unit that was the next number up in the sequence of names for that type of unit. Both appeared to have been working on the same or similar projects in the China-Burma-India Theater of Operations, sometimes called the CBI. The activities seemed to relate to the first steps for creating bases from which the then new B-29 units could begin to bomb Japan.

                         

                        Here are some URLs that will lead you to other useful data

                        - http://www.cbi-history.com/part_xix_b.html

                        1877th Engineer Aviation Battalion:

                        - HX of a sister unit, the 879th

                        http://www.cbi-theater.com/879eab/879eab.html

                        - Progress on the B-29 Fields

                        Meanwhile, the engineers were rushing work on the B-29 fields. In West Bengal, Col. Madsen, head of District 10, had the 879th Airborne Aviation Bn., the 382nd Construction Bn., and the 853rd, 1875th and 1877th Aviation Bns. These units began work on the five B-29 fields in March with borrowed equipment, until the arrival of theirs. In mid-April, with the arrival of the 1888th Aviation Bn.

                         

                        Good luck!

                         

                        Phil

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                          Alice Lane Pioneer
                          Alice Lane Sep 4, 2020 10:09 AM (in response to Linda Hindes)

                          Hi Linda,

                          Found another photo North Africa thanks to Robert Casey's carriage idea. https://www.ww2online.org/image/united-states-servicemen-back-horse-drawn-carriage-north-africa-1942-43

                          Alice Lane

                          Research Volunteer

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                            Alice Lane Pioneer
                            Alice Lane Sep 4, 2020 10:11 AM (in response to Linda Hindes)

                            Hi again LInda,

                            And then there is this one that states it is in Cairo, Egypt...confusing the North Africa idea https://www.ww2online.org/image/egyptian-drives-horse-drawn-carriage-cairo

                             

                            Research can be very confusing at times.

                             

                            Alice Lane

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                              Emily Williams Nov 13, 2020 3:57 PM (in response to Linda Hindes)

                              I think my grandpa may have served with your dad. My grandpa, Albert Blardinelli, was in the Army Air Force with the 1877th Engineer Aviation Battalion in India and Burma from 1943 to 1946.

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                                  Linda Hindes Wayfarer
                                  Linda Hindes Jan 22, 2021 9:53 AM (in response to Emily Williams)

                                  Hello Ms. Williams,

                                  I am writing a story about my Dad's military service.   As my file opened up, I see your note.

                                  I apologize if I did not respond.  Do you have any photos of your Grandfather Mr. Biardinelli with friends in India or Burma?  Just a thought.  I was told by a Veteran that this Campaign was deadly and no other Vet would have wished to be a part of it.  Now I know why a family member said my Dad was very different when he returned.  From my memory, he was a very disturbed man.  He died of alcoholism at age 41. So sad.

                                   

                                  Best wishes on your research.  Linda Hindes

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                                  Joseph DeLeva Newbie
                                  Joseph DeLeva Jan 26, 2021 8:59 AM (in response to Linda Hindes)


                                  Good Afternoon Ms Hindes, I may be able to help with some additional information on your father's unit. My grandfather served in Headquarter & Supply Company of the 1877th from the fall of 1944 till the end of the war. He shipped out for India/Burma with Headquarter Company of the 930th Engineer Aviation Regiment and transferred over to this battalion after the campaign in Central Burma to be the commanding officer's driver. I have spent a number of years piecing together history for these units and the overall war in the CBI. I do have some of the unit history records. Let me know what you are looking for. Likewise, do you have any materials on the unit or any additional pictures? My grandfather's photo album unfortunately was lost many years ago. I would love to share information.  If you have not seen it, the CBI roundup, the local paper of the CBI theater, had a short article on the unit in their 12/6/1945 issue. It is online here:  https://www.cbi-theater.com/roundup/roundup120645.html

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                                      Linda Hindes Wayfarer
                                      Linda Hindes Jan 26, 2021 7:37 PM (in response to Joseph DeLeva)

                                      Hello Mr. DeLeva, Thank you so much for the Roundup Publication information.  I do not have additional info or photographs for you.  I have been researching my parents families for over a decade and I tend to bounce from branch to branch or when something pops up.   As you see above, I sent a note to Ms. Williams as her grandfather was also in the 1877th.  I have alerted many researchers and military veterans of this site with hopes that it helps them as well.

                                       

                                      It is a nice surprise to receive this information.  I am still trying to master Fold3 site to see if they might have photos of my Dad during his service years.   Most likely, I will have to write to National Archives again to find more.   However, the files they did send were reproduced from damaged files as they said there had been a fire years ago. I will keep you and others posted if I should receive any additional information.  Please remember me as well.

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                                        Linda Hindes Apr 24, 2021 5:05 PM (in response to Joseph DeLeva)

                                        I hope I thanked you previously for responding.  I forget how to use some of these sites.  I am not proficient with computers. 

                                        I do not have additional information though I did order and received my father's military health and service records and medals.

                                        Not much other than the location, dates, and honorable discharge.

                                         

                                        Thank you again and so sad that your photo album was lost.

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                                        Stephen Davis Newbie
                                        Stephen Davis Mar 15, 2021 2:13 AM (in response to Linda Hindes)

                                        I have some photos from the 1877th.

                                         

                                        My father said they would travel to Calcutta on leave, so your carriage photo is likely from an outing to Calcutta India.

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                                          Colm McHugh May 17, 2021 5:45 PM (in response to Linda Hindes)

                                          Hi Linda,

                                           

                                          That's a lovely picture to have.

                                           

                                          I thought you might be glad to have these adjustments made to the photo.

                                           

                                           

                                          Best regards, Colm

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                                              Linda Hindes Wayfarer
                                              Linda Hindes May 19, 2021 4:20 PM (in response to Colm McHugh)

                                              Thank you Mr. McHugh!!

                                               

                                              So thoughtful of you.  I don't have many photos of my Dad.  He is second from left (in back).  He was born on Christmas Day and therefore named:  Jesse or (Spanish version of Jesus),  His great aunt said he came back very different.  In the few photos I have, he looks very disturbed.  Mom said he would not eat rice and said he would never forget the smell of dead bodies. 

                                              He died of alcoholism at age 40, I was the oldest of 3 at age 12.  We suffered a lot but in those days, we did not have PTSD programs and I was too young to intervene. 

                                               

                                              Today, I am a member of Voices for Veterans of Clallam County Washington and will always do what I can for homeless veterans and all Vets in need.  Our Veterans should never be forgotten.

                                               

                                              Thank you.  Enjoy the summer where ever you may be.