2 Replies Latest reply on Jan 12, 2021 7:12 AM by Bruce Altobelli Branched from an earlier discussion.

    Seeking to prove grandmother did not renounced or forfeited her Italian citizenship

    Francis LePage Newbie

      Thank you in advance for reading the details of my research and the reason why I am seeking your help.

       

      I am applying for Italian citizenship in the Township (commune) in Italy where my grandparents were born. I am a second  generation American citizen born in the U.S., and I am of Italian descent. I’m retired and planning to spend it in Italy.

       

      My Italian heritage comes from my maternal grandmother to my mother, so I qualify under Italian Law for Italian citizenship which in my case, is based solely on Blood (sanguine). This fact is codified in the applicable code in the Italian Constitution specifically for Italian citizenship by blood.

       

      My own research proves that after my mother was born in 1926, here in the United States, to a woman who is my biological grandmother. I have a valid copy of her Italian birth record. My grandmother emigrated here from Italy before 1910. She became a U.S. naturalized citizen several years, or approximately 15 years, after my mother had already been born. Because my grandmother did not renounce her Italian citizenship before 1927 (my mother was born the year before), my grandmother passed her citizenship to my mother.  So, pursuant to Italian Citizenship Law, my mother is legally recognized as an italian citizen. And this is true, even though our mother was born, not in Italy, but here in the U.S. There are some obvious questions however. Like, if my mother never knew she had Italian citizenship how could she Not know that she had given away her right to citizenship by officially renouncing it? it’s a valid question. My mother still lives here in the U.S. and is 94 years old of sound mind and body. She doesn’t recall ever being asked to sign such a document Or by anyone who wanted her to renounce Italian citizenship. As far as our mother knew, she had only one citizenship which is of the U.S.

       

      But there is a wrinkle. I need to provide the Commune in Sora, Italy, with a letter officially translated from English into Italian, and legally verified, that says she DID NOT renounce her Italian citizenship. My question is, how do I obtain a letter or statement on official U.S. government letterhead, to verify or that will state in  writing that, "my mother Anne Mattacchione LePage never renounced  her italian citizenship?"  I realize there is more I need to do before I can obtain such a letter or where to go to get one, but I hope your insight will help.  Thank you very much.

        • Re: Seeking to prove grandmother did not renounced or forfeited her Italian citizenship
          Rebecca Collier Ranger

          Dear Mr. LePage,

           

          Thank you for posting your request on History Hub!

           

          We suggest that you review the U.S. Department of State rules of Dual Nationality and an explanation of citizenship by the Italian Ministry for Foreign Affairs

           

          We hope this is helpful. Best of luck with your family research!

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          • Re: Seeking to prove grandmother did not renounced or forfeited her Italian citizenship
            Bruce Altobelli Wayfarer

            There are very specific rules for gaining Italian citizenship through heredity also known as "Jure Sanguinis". For example, if you live in New England, you go to the Italian Consulate in Boston which can be found at https://consboston.esteri.it/ and the information you need for gaining citizenship at: Citizenship "Jure Sanguinis" (esteri.it).

             

            To "prove your mother never renounced her citizenship" is very simple but only one step in a long process.  On the last link print out Form 3 and have her sign it and notarized.  It basically says she never renounced her citizenship, and have it translated by an authorized translator which you can find on the same consulate site.  If you do not live in New England, you will need to find the consulate that covers your area.

             

            Italian law is very specific in this area and you must cross every T and dot every i or your application will be rejected.  Since it sounds like you want to gain your citizenship by applying in Italy (Sora), you should speak good Italian or have someone with you to translate.  My understanding is that this is doable and a way to speed up the process as most consulates are now booking two years out for interviews for gaining citizenship.

             

            You will also need all the naturalization, birth, marriage and death certificates from official State or Federal archives and vital record offices (in the US, this means the State and not a local city or town office).  The certified documents (the ones issued in English in the US) must then be apostilled and translated.  The apostille is done by the secretary of state depending on whether it is a State document or a Federal document.  I do not know if Form 3 needs to be apostilled since you plan to submit it in Italy.  At the consulate office in the US, they do not need to be apostilled.  You also realize that you must be born after 1948 to gain citizenship through the maternal line.  Good luck on your quest.  My paternal grandfather is also from Sora.