3 Replies Latest reply on Jan 10, 2020 2:47 PM by Lisha Penn

    Seeking bronze star details for Paul M Saylor

    Darlene DeMars Newbie

      I'm trying to find (4) bronze star details for my father's, Paul M Saylor,  WW II service in the Pacific theater 1944/45. He was a airplane instrument mechanic with the 9th Troop Carrier Squadron.

        • Re: Seeking bronze star details for Paul M Saylor
          Elliot Schneider Navigator

          Darlene,

           

          Just want to clarify the bronze stars you have. Bronze Stars you most likely are referring to are called Battle (campaign)stars they look bronze. These were typically issued on the Theater Ribbon in this case the Asiatic-Pacific Ribbon. Depending on how many campaigns that his unit took place in your case (4). They usually posted them in WD orders. But they really don't offer details, just that the unit officially took part in that campaign.

           

           

          Hope this helps

           

           

          Thanks,

           

          Elliot Schneider

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          • Re: Seeking bronze star details for Paul M Saylor
            Lisa Sharik Wayfarer

            As Elliot Schneider mentioned the Army made things confusing by having 2 types of Bronze Star medals in addition to having a Bronze Campaign(Battle) Star. I don't know if it will let me post a link but I did a Facebook post with pictures about this in 2014: https://www.facebook.com/texasmilitaryforcesmuseum/photos/a.152828991422302/709610432410819/?type=3&theater

             

            If not here is the text of the post:

            We often get asked research questions about WWII medals. The reference to a Bronze Star is confusing to most people.

             

            The Bronze Star Medal is a decoration awarded for heroic or meritorious achievement. This decoration was established on February 4, 1944 by Executive Order 9419 which states under Section B. the following:

             


            "The Bronze Star Medal is awarded to any person who, while serving in any capacity in or with the Army of the United States after 6 December 1941, distinguished himself or herself by heroic or meritorious achievement or service, not involving participation in aerial flight, in connection with military operations against an armed enemy; or while engaged in military operations involving conflict with an opposing armed force in which the United States is not a belligerent party."

            There are two different classes of Bronze Star Medal one for Valor which will have a "V" attached to it and a Bronze Star for Meritorious Service which has no attachment.

            In addition there are Bronze Battle Stars or Bronze Campaign Star

            The Bronze Battle Star is an attachment worn in conjunction with another medal. The Bronze Battle Star is worn on the campaign ribbon and denotes an individuals participation in a specific battle, engagement or offensive. The Bronze Battle Star is often called the following names in military documents and jargon: bronze star, battle star, or campaign star. The 36th Infantry Division participated in five campaigns during WWII: Naples-Foggia, Rome-Arno, Southern France, Rhineland, Central Europe.

            The picture shows a Bronze Star Medal for Meritorious Service on the left and an Asiatic Pacific Campaign Medal on the right with 3 Bronze Campaign Stars. There are several books which explain all the insignia and devices you might see on a WWII uniform one of the best is called "Finding Your Father's War" by Jonathan Gawne.

             

            Lisa Sharik

            Deputy Director

            Texas Military Forces Museum

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            • Re: Seeking bronze star details for Paul M Saylor
              Lisha Penn Navigator

              Dear Ms. DeMars,

               

              Thank you for posting your request on History Hub!

               

              Army Air Force and Air Force records in the custody of the National Archives do not include general orders for your unit. We suggest you contact the Air Force Historical Research Agency, 600 Chennault Circle, Building 1405, Maxwell Air Force Base, AL 36112-6424. The web site is https://www.afhra.af.mil/.

               

              The National Archives at College Park - Textual Reference (RDT2) has custody of microfilm copies of operational records relating to U.S. Army Air Force units. We searched the index to the microfilm and located 21 files that pertain to the 9th Troop Carrier Squadron. Please read the brief Abstract to determine which records you are interested in and click on the specific PDF icon. In the PDF listing, the IRISREF is the microfilm reel number and note the FRAME and FRAMELST numbers for the location on the reel. If the reel number begins with A, B or C, please contact RDT2 via email at archives2reference@nara.gov for access to them.

               

              If the reel number begins with D - Z, the microfilm is still security classified and RDT2 will not be able to make the reel available to you. The original paper copy from which the film was created is still in the custody of the Air Force Historical Research Agency (AFHRA) and has been declassified. To obtain copies of these records, please follow the instructions on this page.

               

              We hope this is helpful. Best of luck with your family research!

               

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