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Re: Researching Great Grandfather and Grandmother (German) Sokolis-Porverski
2 people found this helpfulIt looks like they came separately assuming this is them. Below, first, Great grandmother's immigration. 7/26/13.
Great grandfather's-3/30/13
It lists their previous residence as Gelsenkirchen Germany. This is on familysearch.org. You may need to set up a free account.
Henry
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Re: Researching Great Grandfather and Grandmother (German) Sokolis-Porverski
1 person found this helpfulHenry Rosenberg
If I could hug you I would... Thank-You as a child, I heard stories. I am the oldest great grandchild so my interest have really sparked after obtaining some books. So, Sixty years later I am really beginning to understand the German flight over to the USA. What a eye opener. The hardest part is finding Johann father. I am doing a history wall. The changes sad as it was for Germany. I will include the pictures of the ships also...
Eldest Great Grandchild of Johann Sokolis
Susan Ann Sokolis Crow.
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Re: Researching Great Grandfather and Grandmother (German) Sokolis-Porverski
1 person found this helpfulHi Susan- I'm glad I could help. When I search I check every possible relative. Sometimes you can work your way back to the person you are looking for and sometimes you luck out and find information directly related to the person you are seeking.
I was told by my mother that her grandparents came from Hungary on their honeymoon. Well, after many separate searches, I found a Hungarian record that lists their marriage 2 weeks before they immigrated as per Ellis Island. So, that piece was confirmed.
Death records can be valuable.My mother was named after her great grandmother so I searched for someone with her name who died before my mother's birth year(we're Jewish so it is against tradition to name after living people). Eventually I found her in census records and finally found her death record. That told me her birth year, birth place and her parents' names.
You can do searches on familysearch by country. However, Germany is tricky. Germany was unified in 1870 so relatives may have been from Prussia or some other district. Knowing where your great grandparents last lived may help. Alot of this is guess work. One assumption is that many times, family lived near the wife's family.
If you want or need any help just post more information if you have it.
Good luck,
Henry
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Re: Researching Great Grandfather and Grandmother (German) Sokolis-Porverski
I found out that a child was with her 5 months. Thank-you, Looking on the register help a lot. I promise just one more.
This POP on my tree - Samuel Sokolis? The plot is clearing. How would I be able to trace these names?
I have finally gotten Military registrations' in Illinois USA and his career. Marriage for Johann still not available.
Your help has been greatly appreciated. My Daughter has done a DNA and she is sending that to me.
Susan Sokolis Crow
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Re: Researching Great Grandfather and Grandmother (German) Sokolis-Porverski
Not sure what kind of information or for who you are looking for. Samuel? Birth info? familysearch.org is a good site.
https://www.familysearch.org/en/
Go to search, and click records in the dropdown.
Weren't Johann and Katherine married in Germany? The records would be there.
If there is someone or something specific you want help with, let me know.
Henry
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Re: Researching Great Grandfather and Grandmother (German) Sokolis-Porverski
I took a quick look and found the 1920 and 1930 census. Do not see a Samuel but there are other children if this is your family. Kate or Kattie was born in the year Katherine immigrated. On Katherine's immigration it lists a Kathe(may be misspelled) or Kattie Sokolis who is 5 months old. I'm not sure if this is helpful or what you are looking for.
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Re: Researching Great Grandfather and Grandmother (German) Sokolis-Porverski
malisasimco
Nov 18, 2019 9:07 AM
Dear Ms. Crow,
Thank you for posting your request on History Hub!
Original naturalization records for Johann and Katherine are in the custody of the National Archives at Chicago (RM-CH). For access to and/or copies of these records, please contact RM-CH via email at chicago.archives@nara.gov.
We were able to locate Johann’s Declaration of Intention and Certificate of Arrival and Petition for Naturalization that have been digitized by Ancestry. Katherine’s Declaration of Intention and Petition for Naturalization are also available.
In regards to your great grandparents’s immigration to the U.S. using Ancestry, we were able to locate this Hamburg departure document that is specific to Johann’s immigration to the US. The correlating passenger arrival list at New York can be found here. There is also a photograph available to view of the ship he traveled on. For Katherine, we found the passenger arrival list entry at New York. We also found a photograph of the ship she traveled on.
There may be a fee for using Ancestry. Instead, you may view these records online at one NARA's facilities for free via a NARA PC. For the nearest NARA location, please consult our web page at https://www.archives.gov/locations/. Also, some of the images from Ancestry are available for free on Family Search at https://www.familysearch.org/en/.
We hope this is helpful! Best of luck with your family research!
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