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Was able to find information on your father in the Army Registers. He was issued AM, OLC, PH, looks like he spent some time in the service. Captured and took prisoners in 1943 Stalag Luft 1 Barth-Vogelsang Prussia 54-12. Hope you could look at the following might be able to order reports from https://www.aviationarchaeology.com/src/reports.htm#MACR for MACR #1303
HISTORY OF THE
B-17 #42-30705 / THER-N-BAK
Delivered Denver 15/7/43; Colorado Springs 16/7/43; Kearney 6/8/43; Topeka 12/8/43; Scott 17/8/43; Assigned 347BS/99BG Oudna 31/8/43; transferred 414BS/97BG Depienne 14/11/43; Missing in Action Rimini 27/11/43 with Oscar C. Stedman, Jr.; enemy aircraft, crashed Rimini; Missing Air Crew Report 1303.Source: Dave Osborne, B-17 Fortress Master Log*
CREW 42-30705 / THER-N-BAK
Position Rang/Rank Name Status Bemerkung/Note P 1LT Oscar C. Stedman, Jr. KIA CP CPT Marvin M. Waldroup, Jr. POW NAV 1LT George H. Shube KIA BOMB 2LT Walter B. Parks KIA ENG/TT T/SGT Ray A. Shipe KIA RO T/SGT Clarence W. Vaughn, Jr. KIA BT S/SGT James R. Melton KIA WG S/SGT James W. Sandiford KIA WG S/SGT Joseph H. Christie POW TG S/SGT Milton H. Snyder KIA
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Thank you for your response.
I had previously obtained that information - in fact, the MACR 1303 aircrew list was forwarded my myself to that website. I did make a typo in that submission in that the aircrew member reflected as "Shipe" should have been "Shupe". I have advised the website of my mistake and suspect it will be corrected in the near future.
I also have two picture of the aircraft (42-30705) on bombing missions over France:
He was also a member of the original deployment of the first bombardment to England (Operatioin BOLERO):
And co-piloted the B-17 "King Kondor" (41-9024) as part of that deployment:
It is the above "loading lists" of the 414th BS from June 1942 thru 27 November 1943 that I am most interested in obtaining.
I am submitting a request for his OPF (201) from the MPC in St. Louis and am also considering going to the National Archives in Silver Spring, MD to review the archives of the 97th BG and 414th BS.
Thank you again for you efforts to assist - it is much appreciated.
COL (Ret), AUS
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Dear Col. Waldroup (Ret),
Thank you for posting your request on History Hub!
We searched the National Archives Catalog and located two file units titled 97th Bomb Group: Daily Status Report August 1943 - December 1944 from the series titled World War II Combat Operations Reports, 1941 - 1946 in the Records of the Army Air Forces (Record Group 18). We were unable to locate specific records of 414th Bomb Squadron. Records of lower echelon units sometimes were incorporated into the files of the Bomb Group.
For access to and/or copies of these records, please contact the National Archives at College Park - Textual Reference (RDT2) via email at email@example.com. They also may be able to provide POW information on him.
We hope this information is helpful. Best of luck with your family research!
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The original monthly unit history reports are housed at the Air Force Historical Research Agency (AFHRA) on Maxwell AFB in Montgomery, Alabama. (I believe there are microfilm
copies at Archives II in College Park). The unofficial index for AFHRA is airforcehistoryindex.org. The monthly reports vary in content. Some unit reports are slim; others have crew load lists, post mission crew interrogations, photos, the daily special orders, even listings of what movies were playing on base. It just depends on what that unit submitted. It may be worth a visit.
In the picture with Joe, which one is your father? I didn't know any of this story until today.I knew Joe was a pow and that was it. He and my uncle are brothers.
Thank you for your response and please accept my apologies for the delay in responding as I was unaware that History Hub listed responses in an oldest to newest formnat.
In response to your question, there were two B017Fs named "Ther-N-Bak" and in your RedDog attachment, my father's "Ther-N-Bak" had a tail number of 42-30705 which is depicted in the fourth picture. The first three pictures are of the second "Ther-N-Bak" which had a tail number of 42-5223. Ironically, both were assigned to the 414th Bomb Squadron until 42-5223 was transferred to the 346th BS (99 Bomb Group) on 14 Nov 1943 and flew out of Oudna
In that fourth picture, my father is not represented and I note that only eight of the ten cr ewmen are shown. In fact, my research, including the few remaining family documents, reveal that my father was not supposed to have been on that 27 Nov 42 mission since he was being transferred to join Paul Tibbets in organizing what would later become the 509th Composite Bomb Group. The assigned pilot (unknown) apparently had taken ill and my father was asked to fly the mission since no other pilot was apparently available at the time.
BTW: I have located the crash site of my father's B-17F which is just outside Apecchio, Italy (a little SSW of Rimini which was the target to that mission.
Again, thank you for responding - it is appreciated.