8 Replies Latest reply on Jan 31, 2020 11:13 AM by Jennifer Mcalister

    Info on each chief red wings

    Valerie Evans Newbie

      My great great grandfather was Chief Red Wing.  I am trying to find out which one of the Chief Red Wings he is.  I know they had other names too.  It may be possible my great great grandfather was called Wacouta Shooter. 

      I have a copy of the marriage certificate of his son.  He was born in 1855 in Brooklyn, NY.  His name was Robert.

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            Michael Redmond Newbie

            Hi Valerie.

            I have some intriguing info on Red Wing.

            I'm born in Liverpool, England.

            My dads grandmother was Margaret A Wing. She was married to Robert Wing, born abt 1856. His father was 'Read Wing' which could easily be Red Wing and had a profession of Indian Chief from Brookland, USA. Margaret and Robert had 7 children - 1901 England Census. I have a copy of the marriage certificate for Robert and Margaret and the 1901 Census details. Mike

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              • Re: Info on each chief red wings
                Valerie Evans Newbie

                Hi Mike,

                I Think I wrote to you a few years ago.  I am in touch with Lorraine who you have had contact with also.  Many people in our family had pictures of Red Wing but they all seem to have disappeared over the years.  I saw the picture myself which an Aunt showed me many many years ago.  Unfortunately, no longer with us.  My main aim is to try and find out which Red Wing he was as there was several Chiefs.  Not sure it is going to be possible though as I have tried many ways of finding out.  I could probably do with travelling to Minnesota to their research Library.

                the info I have on your line is Margaret Ann born 10.4.1883, no death date.  Baptized 16.4.1883, St. Peter’s Liverpool.  Married Michael Redmond 15.6.1913, St. Mary’s Kirkdale.  I have no birth or death dates.  Any info you have in your line would be appreciated.

                Val

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                    Michael Redmond Newbie

                    Hi Val

                    It was my sister Caroline you had contact with.

                    I have a cousin on my mums side who is a genealogy buff and I'll tap her up to research the English side of the family.

                    I can tell you that Michael John Redmond was shot by a sniper in the trenches in WW1. He never met my grandfather (his son). I have some docs, service record and newspaper clipping.

                    I have some questions? Which native American tribe did Red Wing belong too? Where abouts exactly does this part of the family come from and is there a 'family tree' already in place for your branch of the family?

                    I'm happy to share docs with you.

                     

                    Mike

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                        Valerie Evans Newbie

                        Hi Mike,

                        I believe our ancestors were Sioux.  I wrote to a Karin Eagle and she said the Red Wing family are predominately from the Santee tribe in North eastern Nebraska, but there is also Mdewakanton Sioux from Minnesota.  The problem is there were several Chiefs and they also had other names.

                        We believe the first Red Wing was Tatankamani (walking buffalo) born in Md village, Minn.

                        Had a son who was too ill to take over after his death.  We think Wabash (red wing) took over.  He was brother of Tatankamani.

                        Next Wacouta (wakute) shooter.  We think he could be our grandfather but cannot prove he had a son, who would be Robert.

                        I am not on Ancestry, only when I go to the Library.  I had my DNA done and I know a Redmond showed up on the list of matches.

                        I am on Family Search.

                        I have the family tree mostly on paper at the moment.  My grandfather was William, third son of Roberts.  He died in France.  He married an Elizabeth Free.

                        Many people in our family had pictures of Red Wing, which I saw myself many years ago.  As often happens, nobody has a picture now which is sad.

                         

                        Val

                         

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                      Jennifer Mcalister Newbie

                      Hi michael redmond i think i am related to u as u have just wrote everythin i have in relation to red wing !

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                      Bonnie Hartung Newbie

                      Hi Valerie, I too am meant to be a great great granddaughter of redwing, my grandmothers name was rhaune her birth name was Frederica rhaune a.j. pulvernes, her mothers name was jenny sky, she was half Tuscarora native American and apparently a daughter of a redwing which we thought was the apsaroke crow redwing but I don't think that was correct as all the info I found has nothing to do with him so am strongly thinking it is the mdewatankon as in one of my grandmothers letters to my mother she writes a little bit in the native language which is Lakota Sioux. My grandmother has passed away a long time ago and we didn't talk to her much so the info we got from her is very limited, my grandmothers father was a Russian business man and him and jenny sky lived in England where my grandmother was born in 1919 jenny passed away 2 days after my grandmother was born, my grandmother was left in an orphanage for about 4 yrs apparently until a woman took her to her paternal grandmothers to live.  I have a few more details but as yet I cannot find a birth certificate of my grandmothers with definite names on it, I am getting my English uncle and aunt to track one down.

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                        Jennifer Mcalister Newbie

                        I have a bit on red wing and have found robert wing in the local museum who fought in ww1 (liveerpool) alot of the paperwork had got damaged from the war so it is hard to find actual.details of others but with the posts i have read above we seem to be related to the same person