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Re: WW1 records search
Holly RivetNov 14, 2018 9:13 AM (in response to wndrdr69)
2 people found this helpfulHello Mr. Wagenaar,
Thank you for contacting the History Hub!
Official Military Personnel Files (OMPF) for Army servicemen retired or discharged between 11/1/1912 and 09/30/2002 are held at the National Archives in St. Louis. These files contain information about enlistment, training received, organizations they served with, correspondence, and discharge.
Due to the 1973 Fire, a large portion of Army and Air Force records were destroyed or damaged. To reconstruct service records we also have the WWI Enlisted Men Final Military Pay Vouchers that will contain name, rank, organization, date and place of enlistment and, as well as character and date of discharge.
These records are releasable to the public when the date of separation becomes 62 years from today’s date. You may request these OMPFs to view in our Research Room or complete an SF-180 form and send it to the following address.
National Archives and Records Administration
National Archives at St. Louis
ATTN: RL-SL
PO Box 38757
St. Louis, MO 63138
Sincerely,
Holly Rivet
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Re: WW1 records search
Elliot Schneider Nov 14, 2018 10:58 AM (in response to wndrdr69)Mr. Wagenaar,
What was the individual name, or any unit information.
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Re: WW1 records search
John Plunkett Nov 15, 2018 11:47 AM (in response to wndrdr69)1 person found this helpfulHello Sir:
Looking at the transportation lists for WW1. One individual stands out and could be your Grandfather.
Edward H.Wagenaar-1379000--Battery C. 124th Field Artilliary--USNG on board Melita from New York May 27,1918 --Private 1st Class.
This man returned on the America May 11, 1919 with the same unit. HS FA-- Horse Shoer Field Artilliary.
Hope this is of assistance,
John Plunkett
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wndrdr69 Sep 4, 2020 8:12 AM (in response to wndrdr69)1 person found this helpfulBased on the answer from John Plunkett is there anyway to find out about getting a copy from this research and if the unit was awarded any decorations or medals my grandfather would have been eligible to legally wear?
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Re: WW1 records search
Elliot Schneider Nov 15, 2018 2:56 PM (in response to wndrdr69)Mr. WAGENAAR,
Was your Grandfather from Illinois? If so I may have some extra things.
Elliot Schneider
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Re: WW1 records search
Kathy Bellet-Waldo Sep 3, 2020 7:22 PM (in response to Elliot Schneider)He was from Cleveland Ohio
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Re: WW1 records search
John Plunkett Nov 15, 2018 2:41 PM (in response to wndrdr69)2 people found this helpfulJohn Plunkett here. Spelling is not my forte.
Looked at veterans headstone applications.
Edward Henry Wagenaar : Illinois NG and AEF
Enlistments Discharges
Dec 1, 1913 Nov 7, 1916
July 12 1917 July 8, 1919 Hon.
Born: May 27,1896 Died: August 2,1955
Buried: Rose Hill Cemetery,Tampa,Florida
VA claim# 2204813
Horseshoer Battery C 124 Field Artillery
31st. Division **** I know this is incorrect.
33rd Division is the correct division.
124 FA is part of 58 Field Artillery Brigade. They never fought with the 33rd either. Fought with a # of other divisions. 77mm guns
Highest rank for Edward is Chauffeur in same org.
Recommended Book---
The Cannoneers have hairy ears: A Diary of the front lines. I believe Casey is the Author. Captain of Battery A, 124 FA. Describes travels and actions of the 124 FA.
Cheers!!!
John Plunkett
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Re: WW1 records search
Elliot Schneider Nov 15, 2018 3:10 PM (in response to wndrdr69)1 person found this helpfulMr. Wagenaar,
If he was from the Illinois area, please use this information below. They may have paperwork for you to fill out but you may get lucky depending how far back records go. They might have information on units and possibly his final pay records, or discharge papers. According to the Illinois AG he was with the Illinois NG Cavalry from 1913 to 1916, than Reienlisted 1916, 1917-1919 With The Illinois 3rd Field Artillery.
For further information call: (217) 761-3910, fax (217) 761-3709, email us at, or write us:
Illinois State Military Museum
Department of Military Affairs
1301 N. MacArthur Blvd.,
Springfield, Illinois 62702-2399Thanks,
Elliot Schneider
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Re: WW1 records search
wndrdr69 Nov 17, 2018 9:54 AM (in response to Elliot Schneider)1 person found this helpfulMr Schneider,
After all the information I've received from History Hub personnel. I was given a contact for the Illinois NG Museum. The following is the name and address for the National Guard Command Historian. I provided this person with the information from everyone's research and she is sending me complete information on my grandfather from his service in France under General Pershing's command from the AEF and presidential call up.
Thanks to all for the information you found
Adriana Schroeder
Illinois National Guard
Command Historian
Camp Lincoln
1301 N. MacArthur Blvd.
Springfield, IL 62702
217-761-3975
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Re: WW1 records search
John Plunkett Nov 16, 2018 7:15 AM (in response to wndrdr69)1 person found this helpfulNo medals is recorded on the headstone application.He would have to be entitled to at least the Victory Medal with the French Clasp.
The 58th Field Artillery Brigade fought in these engagements:-
St Mihiel:-
Supported the 1st. Division in the assault against Mont.Sec
Meuse-Argonne:-
Supported in turn the 91st , 32nd and 89th Divisions.
Don't know why no medal. Might have been detached?? Mistake??? The rosters and daily changes might lend a clue. He would be entitled to something. The veteran checks indicated the 31st division on the headstone application.Might be an army cock-up!!!
Robert Casey (recorded as with Battery C) describes Nov. 11 on their WW1 site.
"For months we have slept under the guns....We cannot comprehend the stillness."
https://www.theworldwar.org/learn/armistice
Gives an error message. Don't know why. Look up Robert Casey at the WW1 Museum and you will see the complete quote. SORRY!!!
John
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Elliot Schneider Nov 16, 2018 8:53 AM (in response to wndrdr69)1 person found this helpfulMr. Wagenaar,
You may also want to look at the following below for additional records.
They converted and redesignated 12 October 1917 as the 108th Ammunition Train and 108th Supply Train and assigned to the 33d Division.
Thanks,
Elliot Schneider
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John Plunkett Nov 17, 2018 12:32 PM (in response to wndrdr69)1 person found this helpfulWrap up!!!!
National Archives:-
Record Group 120.9.4 -
Other Tactical Units:-
Records of 30 - 64 FA Brigades 1917-1919
Hope this has Muster Roll Rosters and Morning Reports
would show presence or absence, sickness, special duty and reassignments.
Extracts from:-
Order of Battle of the US Land Forces in the World War V.2 1988
Pub. by :- Center of Military History
July 18,1917
War Department designates NG of Ill. to form 33rd division. Camp Logan, Houston, Tex. for training.
July 25, 1917
NG Ill. Federal Service
Sep. 10,1917
58 FA Brigade organised. Includes 2nd. & 3rd Ill. FA and 6th Ill. Inf.
June 13, 1918
58 FA Brigade & 108 AM TN arrive from England via Lateur to Artillery training area LeValdahon and Ornans.
ACTIONS:-
Sep. 12 - 15, 1918
58 FA Brig & 108 AM TN participate in St. Michiel operation in support of 1st. Div.
Sep . 26 - Oct. 15, 1918
58 FA & 108 AM TN participate in Meuse -Argonne operation supporting 91st. Div. until Oct. 4th and then the 32nd Div. until Oct
11th.
Oct 24 - Nov. 11, 1918
58 FA & 108 AM TN support the 89th Div. in the Meuse Argonne operation.
Jan 8,1919
58 FA Brig & 108 AM TN rejoin 33 Div.
Muster Rolls and Changes should explain his whereabouts.
john