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Re: Seeking records of Elizabeth Bouton
Louise Bouton Mar 29, 2022 11:42 PM (in response to Claudine Burnett)Hi Claudine, Elizabeth Bouton was my great grandfather’s sister. I have a picture somewhere of Elizabeth. It was nice to see a reference to the information that was passed down. My sisters never really believed me before! My great grandfather had my grandfather with a younger 2nd wife when he was in his 60’s. My grandfather had my father in his 30’s. My GGGrandfather’s trunk and history was left to me by my grandparents. That is one of the reasons everything was kept together, not lost and only moved a few times. I joined History Hub tonight when I came across your post.
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Re: Seeking records of Elizabeth Bouton
Claudine Burnett Apr 19, 2022 6:13 AM (in response to Louise Bouton)I agree the obituary from Elliot Schneider is incorrect. It is from the Los Angeles Herald 12/1/1910. She was his sister. There is lots about General Bouton, just check the historic Los Angeles Times, available online. Did you know there was a Bouton Lake? The remnants are now part of the Lakewood Country Golf Club. In July 1888, Bouton plotted a townsite to be known as Bouton for the area north of what is now Carson and east of Cherry. His future townsite needed water so he drilled a well. Instead he discovered lots of water which resulted in a 200 acre lake, about 14 feet deep named Lake Bouton. The water, which he sold to the city of Long Beach, was more profitable than building a town, though eventually the town of Lakewood was built on the drained lake. I was preparing an article about the lake when I ran across his sister Elizabeth, who I found most interesting. Hoping to find more. Did your trunk left to you have anything about Elizabeth? I would love to have a picture of her. Please contact me using How To: Contact Another User
You probably know this, but thought I would share info from his obit in the LA Times (11/26/1921) First married in 1859 to Margaret Fox a native of New York who died in California in 1891. He married again in 1894 to Elsa Johnson. Besides all his Civil War accomplishments, another was when 3 Mexican and American bandits captured Bouton and a companion in 1879 in California then they were carrying $180000 in gold to purchase sheep. Chained and ordered to march under the guns of bandits, the general detected a weak link in the chain which bound him and quietly worked it loose, grabbing a gun he shot every one of his captors. One counter shot slightly wounded him.
Glad to have found a Bouton relative.
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Re: Seeking records of Elizabeth Bouton
Elliot Schneider Mar 30, 2022 8:53 AM (in response to Claudine Burnett)-
Re: Seeking records of Elizabeth Bouton
Louise Bouton Mar 30, 2022 9:56 PM (in response to Elliot Schneider)This newspaper obituary is confusing. Gen. Bouton was born 1834. His mother died when he was a child. Gen Bouton was married to Elsa Johnson(died in her sixties). They had one son who was my grandfather. The General had a sister named Elizabeth Bouton who died in Los Angeles. Elizabeth Bouton never married. Do you know what newspaper this was from?
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Re: Seeking records of Elizabeth Bouton
Jason AtkinsonMar 30, 2022 9:02 AM (in response to Claudine Burnett)
Dear Ms. Burnett,
Thank you for posting your request on History Hub!
We searched the National Archives Catalog and located 44 record series created by the Department of Mississippi and 2 record series created by the Department of Ohio in the Records of U.S. Army Continental Commands (Record Group 393). For more information about these records, please contact the National Archives at Washington, DC - Textual Reference (RDT1) at archives1reference@nara.gov.
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Re: Seeking records of Elizabeth Bouton
Claudine Burnett Apr 18, 2022 4:33 PM (in response to Jason Atkinson)Thank you. I will pursue.
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Re: Seeking records of Elizabeth Bouton
Louise Bouton Apr 19, 2022 7:55 AM (in response to Claudine Burnett)I did not know that the general actually got shot! At least I didn’t remember that. I have a picture of Elizabeth Somewhere. She fascinates me even more than the general. It sounds like she did things that were so unusual for a woman back in those days. I also did not know about property near Carson. All the family stuff I have is kind of buried back in the garage. But when I do get to it I promise I will get you the picture of Elizabeth.
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Re: Seeking records of Elizabeth Bouton
Claudine Burnett May 7, 2022 4:47 PM (in response to Louise Bouton)I did get a response from the National Archives which I am passing on:
On the lists of records for the Departments of Mississippi and Ohio in RG 393 generated by the History Hub, I would speculate that the only series that might contain relevant information would be "Records Concerning Two or More Individuals, 1861-1867" (entry A1-1 2635), "Citizen Files, 1861-1867" (entry A1-1 2636), "Two or More Citizens Files, 1861-1867" (entry A1-1 2637), and "Records Concerning Two or More Persons, 1861-1870" (entry A1-1 3525). These types of files usually pertained to civilians who came in contact with military or federal officials during the war. Unfortunately we do not have the staff or resources available to review these records in greater detail, but they are available for public research at the National Archives Building in Washington, DC.
It's not really clear what type of special agent Elizabeth Bouton might have been, as she is not listed in our internal finding aid on "Well-Known Women in War Department Records" . I did check the indexes to the series "Correspondence, Reports, Accounts, and Related Records of Two or More Scouts, Guides, Spies, and Detectives, 1861-66" (entry 31) and "Correspondence, Reports, Appointments, and Other Records Relating to Individual Scouts, Guides, Spies, and Detectives, 1862-66" (entry 36) in the Records of the Provost Marshal General's Bureau (Civil War) (Record Group 110), but she did not appear in either.
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