I would suggest that you try to determine if they became US citizens. If they became US citizens, they would have renounced their Polish (or whatever the ruling government was at that time) citizenship at that time. If you want to give us their names, approximate birth years, and place they lived in the US, we might be able to help you find out if they were naturalized citizens in the US.
Thank you for this. I was able to find it for one of my great grand parents, but not the other. I think that this will be helpful, my great grand mothers name is Kundgunda Rupinski (Maiden name is Kolasinski) thought to be born in 1894 in Poland and lived in NJ. On the 1930 census she is listed as an alien. I can not find the 1940 census record. Her husband is Stanley Rupinski.
I am also though trying to find out on Polish paper work if they declared as Polish citizens when they arrived in the US. This is needed if I wanted to try to establish myself as a Polish citizen. I do not think that the US paperwork will work for that.
I am assuming that Kundgunda Kolasinski was married to Stanley Rupinski, not Stanley Lapczynski, based on the censuses and other records I found.
I would suggest that you ask the Polish government exactly what records they accept as proof of declaration of Polish citizenship upon arrival. On Kunegunda Kolansinka's passenger arrival record it states that she was a citizen of Russia, race Polish, and her last residence. At the end of the second page of her arrival record it states the town she was born in. Ancestry.com - New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-195
In my opinion this would be her statement of Polish (at that time Russian) citizenship.
Her husband was naturalized after September 1922, so she would have to have obtained US citizenship on her own. Of interest on the passenger list is an INS investigation (usually for citizenship purposes) number above her name 2-430758 with the date 6/15/1936. This may be when she either applied for naturalization or permanent resident status.
You are correct that her husbands last name is Rupinski. I updated the previous post. Is there a easy way to see what the INS investigation says? I was able to find Stanley's petition and naturalization records.
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Hi Mr. Lapczynski,
Thank you for posting your request on History Hub!
There are a few options on how to pursue Polish citizenship in the US.
1) Determine whether the individuals received US citizenship. To do this, you can e-mail the NARA office maintaining records for the geographic area where the family resided to request a search for Petitions of Naturalization. You can also request a Certification of Non-Existence of a Record of Naturalization (CONE) from USCIS - see "How do I get Certification of Non-Existence of a Record of Naturalization?). I know for some dual citizenship seekers, the CONE has been a required record to obtain.
2) Submit an Index Search request to USCIS Genealogy to determine what INS records exist for the individuals. If they were alive and had not obtained US citizenship in 1940, they would have participated in the 1940 Alien Registration and their registration record would reflect the Polish citizenship. There are other INS records that could be identified in the search that could prove relevant to the research as all INS record types should reflect the citizenship the individuals were claiming during their interactions with that agency.
In addition, learn more about Naturalization Records at NARA here.
We hope you find this helpful. Good luck with your family research!
[Answer provided by Elizabeth Burnes, National Archives and Records Administration Archivist and Subject Matter Expert for Immigrant Records]
I am trying now to find my great-grandfathers birth records. Their names are Frank Wysocki born 11 Apr 1893 in Warsaw, Poland/Russia , and Stanley Rupinski, born 16 March 1888 in Wolka, Poland. Any ideas when I can find that? I check some databases and have not been able to find them?