Hi Susannah Brooks, Thank you so much for finding this death notice. After you posted this, I signed up to Newspapers.com (again) in hopes I could see the whole "Deaths Reported". I wanted to see if there was any way to tell what was the exact date of his death. I wanted to write to the DC department that keeps records of deaths but they require you to have the exact date of his death.
I also wrote to St Elizabeth's Hospital and asked for his medical records so see if I can find any leads to his death and where he is buried.
Again, thank you for taking the time to find this death notice. Could you tell me how you found this? I have been looking for years. And now, even with the information you gave me about the Evening Star, the date etc, I cannot find
that paper or this death report.
Again, thank you so much.
Newspapers.com does not have the Evening Star after 1939 and is missing a large number of issues prior to that. I found it on genealogybank.com. This is the whole list:
Since it is not alphabetical, I thought it might be chronological, but it is not. I checked for obituaries for some of the adults on the list to find their death dates (not all had obits):
Ralph Wormelle Oct 23
Mary Shanahan Oct 22
Rose Hayden Oct 24
Margaret Carroll Oct 23
Edward Saunders Oct 21
Dear Mr. French,
Thank you for posting your request on History Hub!
We searched the National Archives Catalog and located Registers of Cases, 1855 - 1963
Records of St. Elizabeths Hospital (Record Group 418) that serves as an index to the Case Files of Patients, 1855 - ca. 1950. The case files of this series typically contain correspondence with patients' relatives, guardians, lawyers, and other interested parties. Also included are medical records, including commitment papers, summaries of the personal and medical history of the patient, notes concerning mental and physical examinations, laboratory reports, data sheets on therapy, ward notes, autopsy reports, case summaries, and other pertinent records.
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FYI, after requesting records from a couple of places, I got a call from someone at the national archives and they were unable to find any records of Joseph P French. They explained how some records were tossed and some were kept. Since we have no idea of what year he was admitted to the hospital, we can be for sure if the records were in the ones that were tossed. Still waiting to see if the hospital will give me some information about his stay there or not. Does anyone have suggestions to get medical records released from St. Elizabeth's Hospital?
I also wrote to Washington DC's dept for Vital Records and requested a death certificate. It looks like you have to be "next of kin" to get a death certificate -- I indicated that I was his grandson but not sure records are given to grandchildren (even old, old grandchildren).
I also saw somewhere that these records are made public after 75 years and since we know he died in 1945, we are right at the 75 year mark. Does any one happen to know the answer to either of these questions? Again, any suggestion are so welcome. Thank you.