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Re: Seeking parentage of Elizabeth Sheridan
Alice Lane Mar 1, 2021 8:49 AM (in response to Alyson Jones)Hi Alyson,
Welcome to History Hub
So that we can assist you further can you give Elizabeth's marriage name and date of death and any places
that she may have lived. Also names of any family members and places that the parents may may lived.
Do you happen to know when her parents came to the United States.
Thank you
Alice Lane
Research Volunteer
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Re: Seeking parentage of Elizabeth Sheridan
Alyson Jones Mar 1, 2021 10:50 AM (in response to Alice Lane)Hi Alice! Thank you for responding and thank you for the welcome. Here is all the information I have on Elizabeth Sheridan. She was married, I believe, in September 1893 in Mt Vernon NY. The names listed as Bride and Groom are Lizzie Sheridan and Matthew Kirnan. I often see Kiernan spelled incorrectly in the census. I am not positive this is my relative but it seems likely. The second source and as to why I looked for marriage records dating from 1891-1893 was due to the 1900 Census estimating the marriage to be 1892. From 1900 through 1940 all the census records indicate Lizzie living in Manhattan. I have the actual addresses if you need them.
Her death certificate lists Philip Sheridan as her father and born in Ireland but no information on her mother. Most of the census records indicate both her parents having been born in Ireland. I have not been able to locate a census record that includes Phillip and Elizabeth together that makes sense with the other information I have on her. I am only assuming that they came in through NYC port but I don't know.
I have done the ancestryDNA and followed some of the Baptism God Parents names making the assumption that you wouldn't allow a stranger to be your childs God Parents. So, I don't know how they fit but I have also done a partial tree for the God Parents of my grandmother.
OK Here we go: =)
Elizabeth "Lizzie" Sheridan
Born: July 1, 1868 (Death Record)
Died: April 10, 1948 in Manhattan
Married Mathew Kiernan 1892/93 Only guessing the Mt Vernon is the place
They had 5 living children. 3 unknown deceased children prior to the 1900 census
Children of Lizzie and Matthew:
John Joseph Kiernan July 26, 1894 (?) Died July 10, 1968
Frances "Fannie" Kiernan September 4, 1897 (Mass Card) Never married
Matthew Edward Kiernan May 13th, 1901 (He changed his name to Edward sometime in the late 30's)
James Kiernan April 7, 1903
Josephine Kiernan September 8,1910 (My grandmother)
Please let me know how else I can help. Thank you SO much. I have been stuck at this brick wall for literally 5 years.
Most Sincerely,
Aly
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Re: Seeking parentage of Elizabeth Sheridan
Alice Lane Mar 2, 2021 5:31 PM (in response to Alyson Jones)Alyson,
I tried finding more, but the only items that I found that actually connect to the family
are about John Joseph Kiernan. see below.
John Joseph Kiernan (1894-1968) - Find A Grave Memorial
john joseph kiernan Search Results (familysearch.org)
draft states that his dependents were his mother and sister, does not give names
You could try newspapers.com..........they offer a 7 day free trial.
Alice Lane
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Re: Seeking parentage of Elizabeth Sheridan
Alyson Jones Mar 2, 2021 9:32 PM (in response to Alice Lane)Alice,
Thank you for looking. Its so funny that you found that! I only recently got in touch with John's grandchildren.
I am truly thankful for you looking. I've been at this brick wall for a long time. I am looking forward to Covid being over so that I can dig into the actual archives in NYC.
Maybe, a phone call to Mt Vernon could yield results too.
Thank you
Aly
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Re: Seeking parentage of Elizabeth Sheridan
Timothy McGoldrick Mar 7, 2021 12:18 AM (in response to Alyson Jones)I did a search on Roots Ireland https://www.rootsireland.ie/ a pay site $, I found a record for her born in 1868 in Ireland but her father was not listed as Philip. A search from 1866-1870 all Ireland search produced two results,
Elizabeth Sheridan
Date of Baptism: 19-Jun-1867
Parish/District: St. Paul's Arran Quay
County: Co. Dublin
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: Philip Sheridan
Mother: Bridget Quigley
Elizabeth Sheridan
Date of Baptism: 10-Jul-1867
Parish/District: Dromard
County: Co. Longford
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: Philip Sheridan
Mother: Margaret Masterson
Tim
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Re: Seeking parentage of Elizabeth Sheridan
Alyson Jones Mar 8, 2021 4:21 PM (in response to Timothy McGoldrick)Tim,
Thank you so much for looking on that website. I've heard of it but never thought to look there being that all the records are stating that she was born in NY.
I am aware of the prejudice toward Irish people around the time I am researching. Is it possible that she would lie on the census stating she was born in NY instead of Ireland? If so, how would that benefit her, especially when her husband claims Ireland birth in the censuses?
I am beginning to think that she was an orphan and I haven't yet found the correct orphanage records. I'm just at a complete loss.
Thanks again for your help. I am grateful that you took the time to help me.
Aly
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Re: Seeking parentage of Elizabeth Sheridan
Cara JensenMar 9, 2021 3:05 PM (in response to Alyson Jones)
1 person found this helpfulDear Ms. Jones,
Thank you for posting your request on History Hub!
As parental names may be listed on marriage records, we suggest that you contact the Mount Vernon City Clerk to request the marriage certificate of Lizzie Sheridan. We also suggest that you resubmit your request to the New York City Municipal Archives using all name variants. You also may wish to search the New York City online city directories for listings of Sheridans around the 1868 time frame. This would give you an address to search the 1870 census.
As naturalization records may list names of spouses, you may wish to search the online indexes and rolls located at Naturalization Records at the National Archives at New York City for information about Philip Sheridan. Some of the links may lead you to FamilySearch and/or Ancestry websites. Instead of paying a fee, please check for access at your local library as many library systems subscribe to these sites, making them free for their patrons.
We hope this is helpful. Best of luck with your family research!
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Re: Seeking parentage of Elizabeth Sheridan
Alyson Jones Mar 10, 2021 10:20 AM (in response to Cara Jensen)Cara,
Thank you for you suggestions. I have been in contact with the Mount Vernon city clerk and currently awaiting a response. Unfortunately, I don't have the resources (money) to ask for the Archives to search the years and variant names of Lizzie. I found in the 1868 directory a mention of only one Philip Sheridan. I tried using the database you suggested but I was having a hard time navigating it. In the end, the ED for the 1870 census can't be used due to the NYC 1870 census not listing home numbers. When using the map provided, naturally, Philip Sheridan was directly on the cut off line of 18 and 20. I'm guessing those numbers are Wards.
Doing a general 1870 Census search I was unable to find a Philip Sheridan with an "appropriate" age to have a 2 year old child. Also, there weren't any Philip Sheridans with a daughter around 2 years old having Lizzie or any other Elizabeth name variant that I found.
Using your suggestion I will try the Naturalization Records and hope that I find something.
Thank you for your help and interest in my endeavor.
Aly
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