John Edward Socia was born September 22, 1892 & died in France in 1918. He was sent back to Pine Bluff, Arkansas & is buried there in Bellwood Cemetery. I am looking for the correct date of death.
John Edward Socia was born September 22, 1892 & died in France in 1918. He was sent back to Pine Bluff, Arkansas & is buried there in Bellwood Cemetery. I am looking for the correct date of death.
Findagrave siite indicates he died on 11 Sept. 1918. www.findagrave.com/.../search
I did see that, but also saw an article from the Pine Bluff newspaper saying he died on November 10, 1918, just before the Armistice Treaty was signed. It stated his body had arrived home for burial. Thank you for answering though.
I can rule out him dying in November 1918, as he appeared in the published casualty lists prior to that. See the third column.
https://www.newspapers.com/article/austin-american-statesman/125693608/
Please note that the date his name appeared in the newspaper would not be his date of death, as there would have been a delay between his death and the new being published in newspapers, to allow for his next of kin family to be directly notified first,
Also, here's some things on Ancestry that don't answer you question but may be of interest:
John E Socia in the American Soldiers of World War
Listed in the "Died of Wounds" section.
Haulsee, W. M.; Washington, D. C.; Soldiers of the Great War Volume 1
Ancestry.com. American Soldiers of World War I [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2003.
Original data: Haulsee, W.M., comp.. Soldiers of the Great War. Vol. I-III. Washington, D.C.: Soldiers Record, 1920.
John Edward Socia in the U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Registration State: Arkansas; Registration County: Jefferson County
Ancestry.com. U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005.
Original data: United States, Selective Service System. World War I Selective Service System Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. M1509, 4,582 rolls. Imaged from Family History Library microfilm.
John E Socia in the U.S., Army Transport Service Arriving and Departing Passenger Lists, 1910-1939
Name | John E Socia |
---|---|
Departure Date | 24 Apr 1918 |
Departure Place | Hoboken, New Jersey |
Address | West End Station |
Residence Place | Pine Bluff, Arkansas |
Mother | Carrie Socia |
Ship | Leviathan |
Military Unit | 11th Inf |
Rank | Private |
Service Number | 737,978 |
Notes | Machine Gun Company, 11th Infantry |
Name | John E. Socia |
---|---|
Departure Date | 19 Jun 1921 |
Departure Place | Antwerp, Belgium |
Arrival Date | 2 Jul 1921 |
Arrival Place | Hoboken, New Jersey |
Ship | WHEATON |
Military Unit | MG Co 11th Inf |
Rank | Private |
Service Number | 737978 |
I'm having problems down loading the images for the passenger lists at the moment, but the 1921 list is labeled "Remains of Overseas Dead."
Also, here's some things on Ancestry that don't answer you question but may be of interest:
John E Socia in the American Soldiers of World War
Listed in the "Died of Wounds" section.
Haulsee, W. M.; Washington, D. C.; Soldiers of the Great War Volume 1
Ancestry.com. American Soldiers of World War I [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2003.
Original data: Haulsee, W.M., comp.. Soldiers of the Great War. Vol. I-III. Washington, D.C.: Soldiers Record, 1920.
John Edward Socia in the U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Registration State: Arkansas; Registration County: Jefferson County
Ancestry.com. U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005.
Original data: United States, Selective Service System. World War I Selective Service System Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. M1509, 4,582 rolls. Imaged from Family History Library microfilm.
John E Socia in the U.S., Army Transport Service Arriving and Departing Passenger Lists, 1910-1939
Name | John E Socia |
---|---|
Departure Date | 24 Apr 1918 |
Departure Place | Hoboken, New Jersey |
Address | West End Station |
Residence Place | Pine Bluff, Arkansas |
Mother | Carrie Socia |
Ship | Leviathan |
Military Unit | 11th Inf |
Rank | Private |
Service Number | 737,978 |
Notes | Machine Gun Company, 11th Infantry |
Name | John E. Socia |
---|---|
Departure Date | 19 Jun 1921 |
Departure Place | Antwerp, Belgium |
Arrival Date | 2 Jul 1921 |
Arrival Place | Hoboken, New Jersey |
Ship | WHEATON |
Military Unit | MG Co 11th Inf |
Rank | Private |
Service Number | 737978 |
I'm having problems down loading the images for the passenger lists at the moment, but the 1921 list is labeled "Remains of Overseas Dead."
Thank you so much for this information. I am almost 60 years old & was never told about him. He was my great uncle. I just found out about him a couple of weeks ago.
You're welcome! I did a bit more digging and found some more things:
Here's a copy of the VA Index card mentioned by the National Archives.
Like they said, your best bet is to request the burial case files and the XC files from the National Archives at St. Louis.
Unfortunately there's a high chance that his OMPF was lost in the fire, but you never know until you request it, so I'd suggest doing so. Just be aware that there can be a long wait on those, even when they find it.
I also managed to get the copies of the passenger lists I was having troubles with earlier.
Something else you should do is contact the Arkansas State Archives, because they have records for him as well. This is their index listing for him.
https://digitalheritage.arkansas.gov/ww1-discharge-st/6481/