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Seeking my uncle in the 970th CIC Detachment in Germany 1945-1946 WW2

KoganHistory

I have been able to discover only a small number of records for my uncle's service as a  Counter Intelligence Corps Investigator in Europe in World War II. I know he was initially part of the 99th Div CIC Detachment during the War, but at the end of War, the 99th Div was returned to the States while my uncle remained throughout the remainder of 1945 for the first couple of months of 1946 before being able to return himself to the US. My searches for records showing his activity in the 99th have turned up nothing to date, but I'm hoping there might be a chance his name appears somewhere in the post-War records.

As far as my understanding goes, it is likely he would have been transferred from the 99th to the 970th CIC Detachment in 1945. My uncle spoke French and some German. Can you recommend where I might search to find the names of people who served under the umbrella of the 970th CIC, hopefully stating any additional details that would be available about that individual's assignment or place of service in Germany? I was able to follow the movements of the 99th as it made its way through the War, but now I would love to delve into his post-War service and discover where he may have been stationed, and what operations he may have taken part in.

I would consider it a great success just to find his name in a personnel listing, even if there was nothing else to find.

Thank you so much for any suggestions or direction you might be able to give me. If I can clarify or provide more details before you can advise me, I would be happy to do so.

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  • 0 in reply to Jim Rungee

    Hi Jim! Thank you so much for your response and for sharing about your grandfather. I am sorry to tell you that I discovered from the Morning Report records since posting my original question that my uncle did NOT service with the 970th. It would have been amazing if our relatives had served in the same place. It turns out that my uncle served part of his part-War service with the U.S. Group Control Council in Berlin. I don't know if his duty still fell under the Counter Intelligence Corps at that point or if he might have been under G-2 in some other capacity. I still need to study up on that assignment.

  • 0 in reply to KoganHistory

    Thanks for the response. Can you tell me  - are the morning report records your reviewed from the 970th, or of the US Control Group (I need to look at those if they are 970th.

    Most importantly - congratulations on finding what you did find! I am keenly aware that details like these are often needle-in-the-haystack finds!

    Jim  

  • 0 in reply to Jim Rungee

    Thank you so much for that! You're so right about that. I only have the reports for the Control Group I'm sorry to say. I ended up hiring a WW2 researcher working with Bill Beigel to do a search of the morning reports for me. I gave them my uncle's discharge papers and what little else I knew, and they were able to trace his name through transfers for most of the War. I know it's not possible a lot of the time financially to hire someone, but I wanted to let you know how I was able to get this information.

  • 0 in reply to Jim Rungee

    Hi Jim: My cousin was a Special Agent in the CIC in France and Germany 1942-1945. On 1 July 1945 he was in Detachment 970 in Bayerisch-Eisenstein, Germany, near the Czech border. I'm trying to figure out how to approach a NARA search and how I might network with others having similar interests to share information. HistoryHub seems to prohibit posting any personal information. Any suggestions?

  • 0 in reply to welshdk

    So since posting my question, I was able to get my grandfather's OMPF - I was disappointed that it lists his assignments in WWII, but more "generally. His team (970/44 CIC) captured Johanna Wolf, one of Hitler's personal secretaries. I posted a question on Historyhub.gov. In a week, they had found a still classified file that they recommended I request to view under the FOIA. I did that. 2 weeks later, they said yes. I paid 22.00, and am waiting to get that file. I am more than happy to share whatever I find with you, or anyone, for that matter.  

  • 0 in reply to Jim Rungee

    Thanks for your reply! You're lucky that your grandfather's OMPF survived the NPRC fire in 1973! Where did you find the list of CIC 970/44 arrests? I have documents indicating that my cousin was in CIC "Section 970/52" or possibly "970/106/1", but I'm not sure what the numbers after the slashes mean.

  • 0 in reply to welshdk

    That is page 1 of 3 of the list. It’s from old papers that my grandfather kept, but probably shouldn’t have. But I’m glad he did. 

  • 0 in reply to Jim Rungee

    Hi Jim: According to "In the Shadow of the Sphinx" (reference below, p. 87), on 10 May 1945 all officers and agents from 55 CIC detachments were folded into the post-war 970th, which included 323 officers + 1100 agents “on paper”, but “small teams continued in support of divisions and corps”, and each subregion had 1-4 “slash” teams designated by 970/[team #]. So it appears that your grandfather in 970/44 and my cousin in 970/52 were on different teams in different locations.

    Gilbert, James L., Finnegan, John P., Bray, Ann. In the Shadow of the Sphinx: A History of Army Counterintelligence. U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command: Fort Belvoir, Florida, 2005. [GovInfo.gov]

  • 0 in reply to welshdk

    Thank you! Another puzzle piece. I have a few of the names from his teams - two in France (Granville and Cherbourg) and Bavaria. Just wanted to cross reference to make sure they didn’t work together somewhere.