Forums - Thread Details
  • State Selected Answer
  • +1 person also asked this people also asked this
  • Replies 12 replies
  • Subscribers 14 subscribers
  • Views 4460 views
  • Users 0 members are here
Thread Options
Options
Related

Seeking my uncle in the 970th CIC Detachment in Germany 1945-1946 WW2

KoganHistory

I have been able to discover only a small number of records for my uncle's service as a  Counter Intelligence Corps Investigator in Europe in World War II. I know he was initially part of the 99th Div CIC Detachment during the War, but at the end of War, the 99th Div was returned to the States while my uncle remained throughout the remainder of 1945 for the first couple of months of 1946 before being able to return himself to the US. My searches for records showing his activity in the 99th have turned up nothing to date, but I'm hoping there might be a chance his name appears somewhere in the post-War records.

As far as my understanding goes, it is likely he would have been transferred from the 99th to the 970th CIC Detachment in 1945. My uncle spoke French and some German. Can you recommend where I might search to find the names of people who served under the umbrella of the 970th CIC, hopefully stating any additional details that would be available about that individual's assignment or place of service in Germany? I was able to follow the movements of the 99th as it made its way through the War, but now I would love to delve into his post-War service and discover where he may have been stationed, and what operations he may have taken part in.

I would consider it a great success just to find his name in a personnel listing, even if there was nothing else to find.

Thank you so much for any suggestions or direction you might be able to give me. If I can clarify or provide more details before you can advise me, I would be happy to do so.

Parents
  • +1

     

    Thank you for posting your request on History Hub!

    We searched the National Archives Catalog and located the Morning Reports, ca. 1912 - 1946 for Army units that may include morning reports for the 99th and the 970th CIC Detachments in 1945. For more information about these records, please contact the National Archives at St. Louis (RRPO) via email at stl.archives@nara.gov. Please note that rosters for units serving in World War II from 1944-1946 were destroyed in accordance with Army disposition authorities. For more information, please see Access to Morning Reports and Unit Rosters | National Archives.

    If you have not done so already, we also suggest that you request a copy of your uncle’s Official Military Personnel File (OMPF), which should be in the custody of NARA's National Personnel Records Center (NPRC) in St. Louis. In many cases where Army and Air Force personnel records were destroyed in the 1973 fire, proof of service can be provided from other records such as morning reports, payrolls, and military orders, and a certificate of military service will be issued. Please complete a GSA Standard Form 180 and mail it to NARA's National Personnel Records Center, (Military Personnel Records), 1 Archives Drive, St. Louis, MO 63138-1002. Veterans and next of kin of deceased veterans also may use eVetRecs to request records. See eVetRecs Help for instructions. If there is any information requested by the form that you do not know, you may omit it or provide estimates (such as for dates), but the more information you provide, the easier it will be to locate the correct file if it survived the fire. For more information see Official Military Personnel Files (OMPF), Archival Records Requests. 

    For a complete copy of a personnel file, in Section II, on the line for "Other" (Specify), write "Complete copy of every page of personnel file - not an extract."

    Archival OMPFs may also be requested by visiting the Archival Research Room at the National Archives at St. Louis. Please see the linked web pages for more information. Please email stlarr.archives@nara.gov for further assistance prior to making an appointment. 

    In addition, since some veterans registered with their state or local veterans service agencies after they separated from service, we suggest that you contact the state or county veterans agency where your uncle lived for additional assistance. Please review the NPRC web page Other Methods to Obtain Military Service Records for more information. Please note that registering discharge papers with local and state authorities was optional, so we cannot guarantee that these types of organizations will have his records.

    Finally, if he took advantage of any federal veterans benefits after his time in service, the US Department of Veteran Affairs may have files on him. To request a search for records, file a FOIA request with the Department of Veterans Affairs. Their FOIA website is https://www.va.gov/foia/.  All questions regarding VA’s FOIA procedures and fees may be emailed to VACOFOIAService@va.gov. 

    We invite you to continue the conversation with community members on History Hub, but should you have follow up questions for the staff at Archives II, please email us at archives2reference@nara.gov so that we can assist you further. 

    We hope this is helpful for your research! 

    Sincerely,

    Textual Reference Archives II Branch (RR2RR)

    [RR2RR 24-38739-RS]

Reply
  • +1

     

    Thank you for posting your request on History Hub!

    We searched the National Archives Catalog and located the Morning Reports, ca. 1912 - 1946 for Army units that may include morning reports for the 99th and the 970th CIC Detachments in 1945. For more information about these records, please contact the National Archives at St. Louis (RRPO) via email at stl.archives@nara.gov. Please note that rosters for units serving in World War II from 1944-1946 were destroyed in accordance with Army disposition authorities. For more information, please see Access to Morning Reports and Unit Rosters | National Archives.

    If you have not done so already, we also suggest that you request a copy of your uncle’s Official Military Personnel File (OMPF), which should be in the custody of NARA's National Personnel Records Center (NPRC) in St. Louis. In many cases where Army and Air Force personnel records were destroyed in the 1973 fire, proof of service can be provided from other records such as morning reports, payrolls, and military orders, and a certificate of military service will be issued. Please complete a GSA Standard Form 180 and mail it to NARA's National Personnel Records Center, (Military Personnel Records), 1 Archives Drive, St. Louis, MO 63138-1002. Veterans and next of kin of deceased veterans also may use eVetRecs to request records. See eVetRecs Help for instructions. If there is any information requested by the form that you do not know, you may omit it or provide estimates (such as for dates), but the more information you provide, the easier it will be to locate the correct file if it survived the fire. For more information see Official Military Personnel Files (OMPF), Archival Records Requests. 

    For a complete copy of a personnel file, in Section II, on the line for "Other" (Specify), write "Complete copy of every page of personnel file - not an extract."

    Archival OMPFs may also be requested by visiting the Archival Research Room at the National Archives at St. Louis. Please see the linked web pages for more information. Please email stlarr.archives@nara.gov for further assistance prior to making an appointment. 

    In addition, since some veterans registered with their state or local veterans service agencies after they separated from service, we suggest that you contact the state or county veterans agency where your uncle lived for additional assistance. Please review the NPRC web page Other Methods to Obtain Military Service Records for more information. Please note that registering discharge papers with local and state authorities was optional, so we cannot guarantee that these types of organizations will have his records.

    Finally, if he took advantage of any federal veterans benefits after his time in service, the US Department of Veteran Affairs may have files on him. To request a search for records, file a FOIA request with the Department of Veterans Affairs. Their FOIA website is https://www.va.gov/foia/.  All questions regarding VA’s FOIA procedures and fees may be emailed to VACOFOIAService@va.gov. 

    We invite you to continue the conversation with community members on History Hub, but should you have follow up questions for the staff at Archives II, please email us at archives2reference@nara.gov so that we can assist you further. 

    We hope this is helpful for your research! 

    Sincerely,

    Textual Reference Archives II Branch (RR2RR)

    [RR2RR 24-38739-RS]

Children
  • 0 in reply to Textual Reference Branch, Archives II

    Thank you more than I can say! I will email about the Morning Reports that you have located, and I will do that right away. I am so hopeful that they may contain some new information!

    I also greatly appreciate your other recommendations. I will just say quickly that I have previously investigated those options, and I was able to obtain a couple pages from NPRC (his file was destroyed in the fire), and an additional page from a state veterans agency in the state where he gave his address at the time of his leaving service.

    I honestly can't recall if I submitted an FOIA request regarding his use of benefits after the War, but I do know that he went to college on the GI Bill, so in case I haven't taken that step before, I'll submit a new request. I've submitted so many over the years that I've lost track to some degree.

    Thank you again so much for your time and help!