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1885-1900 Western Federal Cavalry.

GrayWells

I am researching and documenting the life of my gg grandfather, General Robert EL Michie.


He spent a lot of time in the west. 
- Fort Boise 1885-1890. 
- ft Lowell AZ 1890-1891 (going to a museum in Tucson at the end of January- fingers crossed)

- ft wingate NM 1891-1884, 1897-1898

- ft Riley KS 1892-1897

- presidio of sante fe 1890

How /where can I find more info? 

thanks!

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    My gg grandfather was General Scott’s aide and was with him when they met with Poncho Villa. I have photos of them together. How can I learn more about his service at that time?

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    My gg grandfather was General Robert EL Michie. He spent a lot of time out west and in Texas. After he died in France (1918) Camp del Rio was renamed Camp Michie. 
    I would like more info about Camp del Rio, so I might learn more about Michie’s time in the area. 
    thank you 

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    Back in the early 1900s (between 1901-1916) my gg grandfather, Robert EL Michie,  “had also been a member of the the War College.”

    Dies that mean he attended or taught?

    Would there be any records I could look at from that time period? I would love exact dates and other info. 

    thank you!

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    Thanks for posting on History Hub! How exciting that your grandfather might have met Pancho Villa!

    We suggest that you start by requesting a copy of his Official Military Personnel File (OMPF). OMPFs and individual medical reports for enlisted men of the U.S. Army who were separated from the service after October 1912 and before 1960 are in the custody of NARA's National Personnel Records Center (NPRC) in St. Louis. In many cases where personnel records were destroyed in the 1973 fire, proof of service can be provided from other records such as morning reports, payrolls, and military orders, and a certificate of military service will be issued. Please complete a GSA Standard Form 180 and mail it to NARA's National Personnel Records Center, (Military Personnel Records), 1 Archives Drive, St. Louis, MO 63138-1002. Veterans and next of kin of deceased veterans also may use eVetRecs to request records. See eVetRecs Help for instructions. If there is any information requested by the form that you do not know, you may omit it or provide estimates (such as for dates), but the more information you provide, the easier it will be to locate the correct file if it survived the fire. For more information see Official Military Personnel Files (OMPF), Archival Records Requests. 

    Archival OMPFs may also be requested by visiting the Archival Research Room at the National Archives at St. Louis. Please see the linked web pages for more information.  Please email stlarr.archives@nara.gov for further assistance prior to making an appointment.

    His personnel file will hopefully give answers to a lot of your wonderful questions, but you may find you have some go  unanswered and have new questions as well. Please do consider returning to ask more questions as there may be other military history resources to pursue as well.

    Hopefully other community members may have additional suggestions for you now as you start your research.

    We hope this is helpful. Best of luck with your research!

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    Thank you for posting your question to the History Hub!

    To learn more about your great-great-grandfather's military service as an aide to Gen. Hugh Scott during his 1915 meeting with Pancho Villa, we would recommend you contact the Archives 1 Reference Branch (RR1R) at archives1reference@nara.gov. Please provide as much information as possible, including your ancestor's full name and, if known, his rank and military unit. There may be pertinent sources in the Records of the Adjutant General's Office (Record Group 94), including the series "AGO Document File, 1890-1917" (entry 25), that could provide general details about your ancestor's military career as well as information about the Scott-Villa meeting. As a starting point, however, we need to know who your ancestor was in order to conduct an effective search.

    We hope this assists you with your research!

    Sincerely,
    Archives 1 Reference Branch
    [RR1R-24-15471-JD]
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    Thank you for posting your question on the History Hub!

    Administrative records for Camp Del Rio are located in the National Archives in Record Group 393 Records of U.S. Army Continental Commands, Part V (Military Installations). We have searched the National Archives Catalog and have located the following series: Name and Subject Indexes to Letters, Endorsements, and Telegrams Sent, 1885-1891; Letters, Endorsements, and Telegrams Sent, 1879-1891; Name Indexes to Registers of Letters Received, 1885-1891; Registers of Letters and Telegrams Received and Endorsements Received, 1879-1891; Special Orders, Post Orders, and Orders, 1876-1891; and Issuances, 1918-1920. We do not know why we have so few records for the period when the post was regarrisoned between 1911 and 1922.

    If you would like to look at these series, we welcome you to visit us in Washington, D.C. Research at the National Archives is currently by appointment only. For more information about our facility as well as instructions on how to schedule a research visit, please go to our web page: https://www.archives.gov/dc.

    The War Department did not create service records for individuals who served in the Regular Army until 1914. Since Michie served after 1914, a service record would have been created for him. This record would be in the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis, if it was not lost in the 1973 Fire. For more information regarding ordering these records, please see https://www.archives.gov/veterans.

    It is possible that there are administrative records relating to his military service in the National Archives facility in College Park, Maryland (email: archives2reference@nara.gov).

    Sincerely,
    Archives 1 Reference Branch
    [RR1R-24-15470-AB]

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    Thank you for posting your question on History Hub!

    With sincere apologies for the late reply to your inquiry, it seems our community has provided good resources for you to consider. In addition to those suggestions, you might want to consider the information below.

    The National Archives in Washington, DC (Archives 1 Reference Branch, RR1R) has custody of the following records pertaining to General Robert E. L. Michie:

    Record Group 94: Records of the Adjutant General's Office, Entry 297: Appointment, Commission, and Personal Branch Files/ACP Files (1871-1894)
    ACP File # 4351-ACP-1885 pertaining to 1st Lieutenant Robert E. L. Michie, 2nd U.S. Cavalry. Total: 500 pp. circa

    We welcome you to visit us in Washington, DC to examine ACP File # 4351-ACP-1885 pertaining to 1st Lt. Robert E.L. Michie, 2nd US Cavalry containing approximately 500 pp. Research at the National Archives is by appointment or on a walk-in basis. For more information about our facility as well as instructions on how to schedule a research visit, please go to our web page, The National Archives in Washington, DC.

    We hope this assists you with your research!

    Sincerely,
    Archives 1 Reference Branch (RR1R)
    [RR1R-24-15473-PH]

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    Archives and Museums: Many historical places have their own archives and museums where you can find information about past events, people and objects. For example, the museum you're visiting in Tucson may have a lot of interesting information about the Lowell Footage. Internet and Online Archives: Try searching online archives and databases such as Ancestry.com, FamilySearch.org, or historical society sites.