Revolution War Final Payment -Family

Hi,

I do have access to FOLD3 and Ancestry and have a copy of Elijah Hooten's final payment voucher paid out 6 Apr. -- no date, but since Elijah died in 1844 I assume it is 1845 or a couple of years later.

Final Payment Vouchers Index for Military Pensions, 1818-1864

Publication Title:
Index to Selected Final Payment Vouchers, 1818-1864
Content Source:
  The National Archives
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Content Partner:NARA
National archives catalog id:2733385

There is also a letter on file from 1937. A Mary Hooten asked for information about the family. Who requested the final payment? This is what the letter stated:

The papers on file in this claim contain no reference to the family of the solider, Elijah Hooten.

In order to obtain the name and address of the person paid the last payment of the pension, you should apply to the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, Washington, D.C, and furnish the following data:

Elijah Hooton
Certificate of 26794
Issued May 29, 1834
Rate $20.00 per annum
Commenced March 4, 1831
Act of June 7, 1833
West Tennessee Agency

My dates above may be off -- the ink is smudged on the typed letter.

And of course this information is on your website: 

The Settled Accounts for Payment of Accrued Pensions (Final Payments), August 1838–September 1865 (RG 217, Inventory 14, Series 724), relate to pensions claimed under the act of Congress of April 6, 1838 (5 Stat. 225), that allowed heirs of pensioners to claim—directly from the Treasury Department—the amount of pension accrued to a pensioner between the date of last payment and the date of death. These records frequently show the pensioner's date and place of death and names of heirs and include supporting documents, such as proof of identity of claimant, pension certificates, power of attorney, and related correspondence. The records are arranged by year of payment [updated Jan 25 2010], then by account number. 

I don't need a copy of the final payment. I need names of heirs and any supporting documents, etc.

So, there is no documentation of Elijah's children, except his son John.  You would think that someone would have requested this since 1937. Does this mean there is no records of the individuals who requested the final payout? Or is there a place where I can request this information. 

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    Thank you for posting your question on History Hub!
    We searched the series, Settled Accounts for Payment of Accrued Pensions, August 1838–September 1865 (Record Group 217, Entry A1 724, NAID 605914), and found two small files for Elijah Hooton:
    • File #10746 (1841, West TN)
    • File #272 (1845, Nashville, TN)

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    Thank you for posting your question on History Hub!
    We searched the series, Settled Accounts for Payment of Accrued Pensions, August 1838–September 1865 (Record Group 217, Entry A1 724, NAID 605914), and found two small files for Elijah Hooton:
    • File #10746 (1841, West TN)
    • File #272 (1845, Nashville, TN)

    There are currently three options for obtaining access and copies of records in our holdings:

    1. You can visit the National Archives in Washington, DC, in person. For information about scheduling a visit, please see our website at https://www.archives.gov/dc.
    2. You can request a price quote for select documents. To see a list of our Reproduction fees, please visit our website at https://www.archives.gov/research/order/fees. Price quotes require your full name as well as your billing and shipping address. Researchers are asked to keep their request to 3 file units at a time. Should you wish to use this service please send an email to archives1reference@nara.gov with your name, address and the records you seek (record group, entry number, file numbers, etc.).
    3. In lieu of ordering reproductions or visiting us in person, you can hire a private researcher to perform research on your behalf. A list of private researchers who are familiar with National Archives facilities is available on our web site at https://www.archives.gov/research/hire-help.

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  • Thanks so much for your reply.  Two small files doesn't sound like a lot.<g>. I wish you had said two large files. However I am very happy that you found anything at all.

    I will be submitting a request. 

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    We searched the series, Settled Accounts for Payment of Accrued Pensions, August 1838–September 1865 (Record Group 217, Entry A1 724, NAID 605914), and found two small files for Elijah Hooton:
    • File #10746 (1841, West TN)
    • File #272 (1845, Nashville, TN)

    Do I also need to be looking for a separate file for Mary? It looks like she could have received payments for (a) remaining balance (b) five years  (c) for her lifetime:

    June 7, 1832

    Last service pension act for Revolutionary War veterans. The act provided that every officer or enlisted man who had served at least two years in the Continental Line or State troops, volunteers or militia, Naval and Marine officers, were eligible for a pension of full pay for life.

    Partial pay was granted to Veterans who had served less than two years, but not less than six months.

    The act of 1828 and 1832 did not required applicants to demonstrate need. Under the act of 1832 money due from the last payment until the date of death of a pensioner could be collected by his widow or by his children.

    July 24, 1836

    Claims under the resolution of August 24, 1780, expired in 1794.

    Widows were authorized the pension that would have been available to their veteran husbands when they were living, so long as they had married before he left service.

    July 7, 1838

    This act granted five-year pensions to widows whose marriages had taken place before January 1, 1794. These pensions were continued by acts of March 3, 1843; June 17, 1844; and February 2, 1848.

    July 29, 1848

    Congress provided life pensions for widows of veterans who were married before January 2, 1800. All restrictions pertaining to the date of marriage were removed by acts of February 3, 1853, and February 28, 1855.

    March 9, 1878

    Widows of Revolutionary War soldiers who had served for as few as fourteen days, or were in any engagement, were declared eligible for life pensions.

    Widows' pension application files have headings usually consisting of the
    name of the State or organization for which a veteran served; his name; his
    widow's name; and the letter "W" for widow, followed by a file number. Usually
    only a widow's given name appears on an envelope, but if she remarried, her
    second husband's surname is also included, with the notation "Former
    Widow." A widow's pension application file may contain records normally found
    in a survivor's file, especially if the widow's file is a consolidation of her papers
    and those of the pensioned veteran who had been her husband. Whether a
    widow's file represents such a consolidation or relates only to pension claims
    made by her, it will generally contain one or more approved post-1800
    applications for a pension made by the widow. Incorporated in or attached to
    some widows' applications is a copy of a marriage record made by a town clerk, a
    clergyman, or a justice of the peace. Sometimes family-record pages from Bibles
    and other books were also submitted by a widow as proof of marriage

  • Thank you for posting your question on History Hub!
    We searched the series, Settled Accounts for Payment of Accrued Pensions, August 1838–September 1865 (Record Group 217, Entry A1 724, NAID 605914), and found two small files for Elijah Hooton:
    • File #10746 (1841, West TN)
    • File #272 (1845, Nashville, TN)
    There are currently three options for obtaining access and copies of records in our holdings:
    1. You can visit the National Archives in Washington, DC, in person. For information about scheduling a visit, please see our website at https://www.archives.gov/dc.
    2. You can request a price quote for select documents. To see a list of our Reproduction fees, please visit our website at https://www.archives.gov/research/order/fees. Price quotes require your full name as well as your billing and shipping address. Researchers are asked to keep their request to 3 file units at a time. Should you wish to use this service please send an email to archives1reference@nara.gov with your name, address and the records you seek (record group, entry number, file numbers, etc.).
    3. In lieu of ordering reproductions or visiting us in person, you can hire a private researcher to perform research on your behalf. A list of private researchers who are familiar with National Archives facilities is available on our web site at https://www.archives.gov/research/hire-help.
    We hope this assists you with your research!
    Sincerely,
    Archives 1 Reference Branch (RR1R)
    We searched the series, Settled Accounts for Payment of Accrued Pensions, August 1838–September 1865 (Record Group 217, Entry A1 724, NAID 605914), and found two small files for Elijah Hooton:
    • File #10746 (1841, West TN)
    • File #272 (1845, Nashville, TN)

    Do I also need to be looking for a separate file for Mary? It looks like she could have received payments for (a) remaining balance (b) five years  (c) for her lifetime:

    June 7, 1832

    Last service pension act for Revolutionary War veterans. The act provided that every officer or enlisted man who had served at least two years in the Continental Line or State troops, volunteers or militia, Naval and Marine officers, were eligible for a pension of full pay for life.

    Partial pay was granted to Veterans who had served less than two years, but not less than six months.

    The act of 1828 and 1832 did not required applicants to demonstrate need. Under the act of 1832 money due from the last payment until the date of death of a pensioner could be collected by his widow or by his children.

    July 24, 1836

    Claims under the resolution of August 24, 1780, expired in 1794.

    Widows were authorized the pension that would have been available to their veteran husbands when they were living, so long as they had married before he left service.

    July 7, 1838

    This act granted five-year pensions to widows whose marriages had taken place before January 1, 1794. These pensions were continued by acts of March 3, 1843; June 17, 1844; and February 2, 1848.

    July 29, 1848

    Congress provided life pensions for widows of veterans who were married before January 2, 1800. All restrictions pertaining to the date of marriage were removed by acts of February 3, 1853, and February 28, 1855.

    March 9, 1878

    Widows of Revolutionary War soldiers who had served for as few as fourteen days, or were in any engagement, were declared eligible for life pensions.

    Widows' pension application files have headings usually consisting of the
    name of the State or organization for which a veteran served; his name; his
    widow's name; and the letter "W" for widow, followed by a file number. Usually
    only a widow's given name appears on an envelope, but if she remarried, her
    second husband's surname is also included, with the notation "Former
    Widow." A widow's pension application file may contain records normally found
    in a survivor's file, especially if the widow's file is a consolidation of her papers
    and those of the pensioned veteran who had been her husband. Whether a
    widow's file represents such a consolidation or relates only to pension claims
    made by her, it will generally contain one or more approved post-1800
    applications for a pension made by the widow. Incorporated in or attached to
    some widows' applications is a copy of a marriage record made by a town clerk, a
    clergyman, or a justice of the peace. Sometimes family-record pages from Bibles
    and other books were also submitted by a widow as proof of marriage

  • Additional question. I have found multiple people appear to have filed for the final pension. Are there any files on these people:

    Name Henry Hooten
    Residence Place North Carolina
    Veteran's Name Elijah Hooten
    Veteran's Military Service Branch N.C.
    Event Type Pension
    File Name 1323
    Pension Number S. 4388
    Source Publication Title Revolutionary War Pensions

    Name Thomas Hooten
    Residence Place North Carolina
    Veteran's Name Elijah Hooten
    Veteran's Military Service Branch N.C.
    Event Type Pension
    File Name 1323
    Pension Number S. 4388
    Source Publication Title Revolutionary War Pensions

    Elijah Hooten

    Name Elijah Hooten
    Residence Place North Carolina
    Veteran's Name Elijah Hooten
    Veteran's Military Service Branch N.C.
    Event Type Pension
    File Name 1323
    Pension Number S. 4388
    Source Publication Title Revolutionary War Pensions

     

     

    Along with Mary:

     

    Name Mary Hooten
    Residence Place North Carolina
    Veteran's Name Elijah Hooten
    Veteran's Military Service Branch N.C.
    Event Type Pension
    File Name 1323
    Pension Number S. 4388
    Source Publication Title Revolutionary War Pensions

  • Sorry for so many questions, but I am actively researching while waiting for your reply and more questons come up.  

    From Familysearch.org, it appears that 14 people made a claim on Elijah Hooten's final payment.  Yesterday, I asked about Henry Hooten, Thomas Hooten, Elijah Hooten, and Mary.  After posting that question, I found 9 more people. Here are all the people:

    Name Charles Hooten

    Residence Place North Carolina

    Veteran's Name Elijah Hooten

    Veteran's Military Service Branch N.C.

    Event Type Pension

    File Name 1323

    Pension Number S. 4388

     

    Name Jacob Hooten

    Residence Place North Carolina

    Veteran's Name Elijah Hooten

    Veteran's Military Service Branch N.C.

    Event Type Pension

    File Name 1323

    Pension Number S. 4388 

     

    Name William Hooten

    Residence Place North Carolina

    Veteran's Name Elijah Hooten

    Veteran's Military Service Branch N.C.

    Event Type Pension

    File Name 1323

    Pension Number S. 4388

    Source Publication Title Revolutionary War Pensions

     

    Name Shadrach Price

    Residence Place North Carolina

    Veteran's Name Elijah Hooten

    Veteran's Military Service Branch N.C.

    Event Type Pension

    File Name 1323

    Pension Number S. 4388

    Source Publication Title Revolutionary War Pensions

     

    Name Jacob A Lane

    Residence Place North Carolina

    Veteran's Name Elijah Hooten

    Veteran's Military Service Branch N.C.

    Event Type Pension

    File Name 1323

    Pension Number S. 4388

    Source Publication Title Revolutionary War Pensions

     

    Name William Mills

    Residence Place North Carolina

    Veteran's Name Elijah Hooten

    Veteran's Military Service Branch N.C.

    Event Type Pension

    File Name 1323

    Pension Number S. 4388

     

    Name Gates

    Residence Place North Carolina

    Veteran's Name Elijah Hooten

    Veteran's Military Service Branch N.C.

    Event Type Pension

    File Name 1323

    Pension Number S. 4388

    Source Publication Title Revolutionary War Pensions

    Source Publication Title Revolutionary War Pensions

     

    Name Edwards

    Residence Place North Carolina

    Veteran's Name Elijah Hooten

    Veteran's Military Service Branch N.C.

    Event Type Pension

    File Name 1323

    Pension Number S. 4388

    Source Publication Title Revolutionary War Pensions

     

     

    Name Whooten

    Residence Place North Carolina

    Veteran's Name Elijah Hooten

    Veteran's Military Service Branch N.C.

    Event Type Pension

    File Name 1323

    Pension Number S. 4388

    Source Publication Title Revolutionary War Pensions

     

    Name Joseph Cummings

    Residence Place North Carolina

    Veteran's Name Elijah Hooten

    Veteran's Military Service Branch N.C.

    Event Type Pension

    File Name 1323

    Pension Number S. 4388

    Source Publication Title Revolutionary War Pensions

     

     I have read different information. One said there are widows files, another said the files were incorporated with the patriot.  

    My assumption right now is that Mary is Elijah's widow, and Hooten's are his sons, and Non-Hooten names are his sons-in-laws. 

    It is unclear to me, if grandchildren could apply. One resource stated widows and children (seemly to say only this individuals) but another said heirs, and family.

    Could you please clarify who could apply? And if all the payment information is listed under Elijah, or separate files for these individuals?

    Thank you 

  • United States Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Applications, 1800-1900

    In this file, I have found all these people that made claim against Elijah Hooten's pension.

    1. William Bullock
    2. Jacob A. Lane         (previously listed in a question)
    3. Ros Eastland
    4. David Snadgley
    5. Joseph Cummings  (previously listed in a question) 
    6. Shadrach Price       (previously listed in a question)
    7. W .B. Campbell
    8. William Bounds
    9. Jesse Bounds
    10. J. B. Forester
    11. Albion K. Parris
    12. Henry Hooten       (previously listed in a question)
    13. Jesse England
    14. A. D. Hiller
    15. Gates                    (previously listed in a question)
    16. Edwards                (previously listed in a question)
    17. Caswell
    18. William Mills
    19. Castor
    20 Williams                  (previously listed in a queston)
    21. Danl Boyd
    22. Whooten                (previously listed in a queston)
    23. Neble
    24. Charles Hooten     (previously listed in a question)
    25. William Hooten     (previously listed in a question)
    26 Elijah Hooten         (previously listed in a question)
    27 Jacob Hooten        (previously listed in a question)

    28 Mary B Hooten      (previously listed in a question)

    Can you tell me what is going here? Are these sons-in-law, sons, grandchildren, husbands married to Elijah's granddaughters?

     

  • So, here is a portion of Elijah’s pension application:

     The names of his parents were not given.While a resident of Cumberland County, North Carolina, Elijah Hooten volunteered late in 1779, served as a private in Captain Edwards' company, Colonel Williams' North Carolina regiment, he was in the battle of Gates' Defeat, and in the battle of Guilford Court House, where he was severely wounded,

    refers to the following persons to whom he is known in this present neighborhood to whom he is known in his present neighborhood and who can testify as to his character for Veracity and their belief of his services as a soldier of the revolution, there being no minister of the Gospel within his reach. Viz. Shadrach Price - Jesse Bounds Jesse England, & William Mills. & William Bullocks. & William Bounds. his Elijah X Hooten mark Sworn in open Court 16 April 1834

     

     to the best of his recollection he entered the service as a private volunteer soldier, under Captain Edwards in Cumberland County North Carolina: he thinks this was some time in the latter part of the year 1779 = his engagement was for twelve months - and has served it out. He was under the command of General Caswell: The troops to which he elonged joined General Gates on "deep River", at a place called "Cox's Settlement". He remained with Gates' army until Gates' defeat near Camden. He was in that battle - and can relate many of the occurrences of the day - but it is deemed unnecessary. He will barely mention that his Captain & Lieutenant were both killed - his Lieutenants name was Castor: this declarant was present, and near to his Lieutenant when he was killed. - His Colonel's name was Williams: His engagement as stated above was only for twelve months, but he remained in the service until the battle of Guilford, having joined General Greenes army, after Gates' defeat - his Captain's name, (i.e. after the death of Edwards) he cannot remember, the troops were dispersed and scattered after Gates' defeat 

    signed by Abr Eastman with a sealSigned by David Snatg with a sealsigned by Joseph Cummings with a sealState of Tennessee, White County Jacob Shane clerk of the County Court of White County aforesaid do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of said court in the matter of the application of Elijah Hooten for a pension. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal of office the 23rd day do April A.D. 1834.signed by Jacob Shane ClerkWhite County andsigned by Pyet Abraham D.G.

    United States Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Applications, 1800-1900

    In this file, I have found all these people that made claim against Elijah Hooten's pension\

    1.     William Bullock                                                                      character witness
      2. Jacob A. Lane?                                   govt. official   
      3. Ros Eastland
      4. David Snadgley                                  govt. official
      5. Joseph Cummings                              govt. official
      6. Shadrach Price                                                                   character witness      
      7. W .B. Campbell
      8. William Bounds                                                                   character witness
      9. Jesse Bounds                                                                     character witness
      10. J. B. Forester
      11. Albion K. Parris
      12. Henry Hooten       
      13. Jesse England                                                                   character witness
      14. A. D. Hiller
      15. Gates                   Gates' defeat
      16. Edwards              Military Officer  
      17. Caswell                Military Officer
      18. William Mills         Military Officer
      19. Castor                  Military Officer
      20 Williams                Military Officer
      21. Danl Boyd
      22. Whooten  probably listed because this is offered as an alternate spelling.              
      23. Neble
      24. Charles Hooten     
      25. William Hooten     
      26 Elijah Hooten         
      27 Jacob Hooten    

                28 Mary B Hooten   

    If  you take out officials, character witnesses, military officers, etc. then you are left with this:

     W .B. Campbell
    J. B. Forester.

    Albion K. Parris
    Henry Hooten       

    A. D. Hiller.

    Danl Boyd.              
    Neble. 

    Charles Hooten     .

    William Hooten     
     Elijah Hooten         
    Jacob Hooten       

     Mary B Hooten     

    It appears that at least two of Elijah Hooten's pension payments were made under the Act of April 6, 1838.  Under this act, if a pensioner did not pick up his payment at his local pension office for eight months, then this money would be returned to the Treasury Department.  In order to receive this money, the pensioner would need to write directly to the Treasury Department.  It is unlikely that the RG 217 Entry 724 records will state the reason for why Elijah did not pick up two of his pension payments.

    So, Neble is probably an official  that might have signed to re-instate his payments and maybe other of the non-Hooten names