Seeking locations of 419th Medical Clearing Company (Separate) from 1945-1946. My father Edwin Robert Orr served as a Captain MC in that unit. I have found some data in the 240th Medical Battalion Annual Report 31 Dec 1944. None after that.

This is part of a larger enterprise.

Our personal documentation includes 17 letters to family and friends (82,000 words, total) and the negatives (about 500, now digitized).

The project is to correlate the photos and the letters, and to present them in the proper chronological order, with actual dates and places instead of the vague references required by military security.

I know something of his locations from enlistment August 1, 1942, in Madison Wisconsin.

Thence to Carlisle Barracks for Officer Basic (1 month)

Thence to Co. B, 82nd Medical Bn, 12th Armored Division, Camp Campbell, KY

TDY at Northwestern Medical School Chicago, IL Chicago, IL 6 week Surgery of the Extremities Course, July 4 -August 13, 1943.

Then the trace gets muddy. Probably back to Camp Campbell.

BUT he writes when he is preparing to embark for Europe that he left from Camp Carson. No data on assignments that got him there, nor of the precise date. How did he get there. He once mentioned being at or near Camp Polk. With what unit?

He embarks presumably from New York, New York to United Kingdom 2 July 1944, arriving UK 15 July 1944.

Do not know where he was stationed in UK. Assume it is with the 419th MCC.

Assume about early September 1944 departs UK to France.

On Sept 15, 1944, the 419th MCC is attached to 240th Medical Battalion, to supplement 102nd Evacuation Hospital. The 1944 Annual Report tracks the 419th MCC to the end of December. 1944 report SOURCE: https://achh.army.mil/history/book-wwii-bulge-240thmedbn-240thmedbn1944

I hope that a 1945 annual report from the 240th Medical Battalion might help. Have not yet found one. Then, what changes were made in the organization for Occupation.

According to annotations accompanying photographic negatives we discovered after his death, he seems to have tracked generally a course with Patton's 3rd Army until VE Day.

His last months in active duty overseas were in Fussen, Germany associated with one or more Displaced Persons hospitals.

He departed Europe December 11, 1945, arriving USA December 21 1945. On terminal leave until March 19, 1946.

American Theater Ribbon, 2 Overseas Service Bars, EAME Theater Ribbon w/4 Battle Stars, Victory Medal.

His discharge papers show his last unit as 59th Field Hospital.

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    Thank you for posting your question on History Hub!

    Initially, if you have not already done so, we would recommend that you request a copy of Orr’s Official Military Personnel File (OMPF). OMPFs and individual medical reports for soldiers of the U.S. Army who were separated from the service after October 1912 and before 1960 are in the custody of NARA's National Personnel Records Center (NPRC) in St. Louis. In many cases where personnel records were destroyed in the 1973 fire, proof of service can be provided from other records such as morning reports, payrolls, and military orders, and a certificate of military service will be issued. Please complete a GSA Standard Form 180 and mail it to NARA's National Personnel Records Center, (Military Personnel Records), 1 Archives Drive, St. Louis, MO 63138-1002. Veterans and next of kin of deceased veterans also may use eVetRecs to request records. See eVetRecs Help for instructions. If there is any information requested by the form that you do not know, you may omit it or provide estimates (such as for dates), but the more information you provide, the easier it will be to locate the correct file if it survived the fire. For more information see Official Military Personnel Files (OMPF), Archival Records Requests.

    The Textual Reference Archives II Branch (RR2RR) has custody of unit records of World War II Army units2. Military unit files among these records consist mostly of historical reports, operations (or “after action”) reports, unit journals, and general orders. Please be aware that our records (for the most part) are not searchable by name and do not have a name index.

    We searched the National Archives Catalog and located the World War II Operations Reports, 1940-1948 in the Records of the Adjutant General's Office, 1917 - 1985 (Record Group 407) and located records of the 419th Medical Clearing Company in box 17149. Records related to the 240th Medical Battalion may be included in box 17128. There would also likely be unit records  of the 59th Field Hospital and 102nd Evacuation Hospital in this series. For more information about these non-digitized records, please contact the National Archives at College Park - Textual Reference (RR2R) via email at archives2reference@nara.gov.

    We also searched the National Archives Catalog and located a series titled Unit Histories, 1943 - 1967 in the Records of U.S. Army Operational, Tactical, and Support Organizations (World War II and Thereafter) (Record Group 338). Within this series we located a file for the 419th Medical Company: Unit Histories in box 4774. Feel free to search this series by clicking on the “Search Within this Series” tab. The tiles of all file units within this series have been uploaded into the Catalog.  For more information about these non-digitized records, please contact the National Archives at College Park - Textual Reference (RR2R) via email at archives2reference@nara.gov.

     

    The Textual Reference Archives II Branch (RR2RR) also has custody of the Records of the Office of the Surgeon General (Army), 1775 - 1994 (Record Group 112) which contains series Records of Historical Unit Medical Detachments (HUMEDS), 1940 - 1955 (UD 1012). This series includes files of the 240th Medical Battalion in box 262 and the 102nd Evacuation Hospital in box 85. Again, For more information about these non-digitized records, please contact the National Archives at College Park - Textual Reference (RR2R) via email at archives2reference@nara.gov.

    We invite you to continue the conversation with community members on History Hub, but should you have follow up questions for the staff at Archives II, please email us at archives2reference@nara.gov so that we can assist you further. 

    We hope this assists you with your research! 

    Sincerely,

    Textual Reference Archives II Branch (RR2RR)

    [RR2RR 25-03877-VVT]

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  •  

    Thank you for posting your question on History Hub!

    Initially, if you have not already done so, we would recommend that you request a copy of Orr’s Official Military Personnel File (OMPF). OMPFs and individual medical reports for soldiers of the U.S. Army who were separated from the service after October 1912 and before 1960 are in the custody of NARA's National Personnel Records Center (NPRC) in St. Louis. In many cases where personnel records were destroyed in the 1973 fire, proof of service can be provided from other records such as morning reports, payrolls, and military orders, and a certificate of military service will be issued. Please complete a GSA Standard Form 180 and mail it to NARA's National Personnel Records Center, (Military Personnel Records), 1 Archives Drive, St. Louis, MO 63138-1002. Veterans and next of kin of deceased veterans also may use eVetRecs to request records. See eVetRecs Help for instructions. If there is any information requested by the form that you do not know, you may omit it or provide estimates (such as for dates), but the more information you provide, the easier it will be to locate the correct file if it survived the fire. For more information see Official Military Personnel Files (OMPF), Archival Records Requests.

    The Textual Reference Archives II Branch (RR2RR) has custody of unit records of World War II Army units2. Military unit files among these records consist mostly of historical reports, operations (or “after action”) reports, unit journals, and general orders. Please be aware that our records (for the most part) are not searchable by name and do not have a name index.

    We searched the National Archives Catalog and located the World War II Operations Reports, 1940-1948 in the Records of the Adjutant General's Office, 1917 - 1985 (Record Group 407) and located records of the 419th Medical Clearing Company in box 17149. Records related to the 240th Medical Battalion may be included in box 17128. There would also likely be unit records  of the 59th Field Hospital and 102nd Evacuation Hospital in this series. For more information about these non-digitized records, please contact the National Archives at College Park - Textual Reference (RR2R) via email at archives2reference@nara.gov.

    We also searched the National Archives Catalog and located a series titled Unit Histories, 1943 - 1967 in the Records of U.S. Army Operational, Tactical, and Support Organizations (World War II and Thereafter) (Record Group 338). Within this series we located a file for the 419th Medical Company: Unit Histories in box 4774. Feel free to search this series by clicking on the “Search Within this Series” tab. The tiles of all file units within this series have been uploaded into the Catalog.  For more information about these non-digitized records, please contact the National Archives at College Park - Textual Reference (RR2R) via email at archives2reference@nara.gov.

     

    The Textual Reference Archives II Branch (RR2RR) also has custody of the Records of the Office of the Surgeon General (Army), 1775 - 1994 (Record Group 112) which contains series Records of Historical Unit Medical Detachments (HUMEDS), 1940 - 1955 (UD 1012). This series includes files of the 240th Medical Battalion in box 262 and the 102nd Evacuation Hospital in box 85. Again, For more information about these non-digitized records, please contact the National Archives at College Park - Textual Reference (RR2R) via email at archives2reference@nara.gov.

    We invite you to continue the conversation with community members on History Hub, but should you have follow up questions for the staff at Archives II, please email us at archives2reference@nara.gov so that we can assist you further. 

    We hope this assists you with your research! 

    Sincerely,

    Textual Reference Archives II Branch (RR2RR)

    [RR2RR 25-03877-VVT]

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