Are there records for a particular days casualties WWII Brest France?

My grandfather died from wounds on September 12 1944. 23rd Infantry, Co E. 

We don't know if he died instantly or if he was originally hospitalized. Do I share his name publicly?

  • Martha Moser,

    23rd infantry link :   There are a couple of different links.


    Hope this is what you are looking for.


  • If you feel comfortable you could post the name, which may enable us to make more specific suggestions. If you do not wish to do so, there are other ways to locate broad information.

    The following list would give your grandfather’s type of casualty` for instance, if he were listed as Killed in Action versus Died of Wounds.

    WWII Army and Army Air Force Casualties

    --Select the state.
    --Select the county.
    --Search for the name.
    --The “Forward II” page is found on the page where you select the county. Make sure to read the Type of Casualty abbreviation key on the top right side.

    Some other possible locations:
    --Newspapers from the time may give information.
    --A unit history or similar document/website may reveal something.
    --Some states may have a book/website about their WWII casualties.

    All of these sources would need to verified, but they might give you good information.

    Good luck!

  • Died of/from Wounds has a specific meaning in casualty reports and is different from Killed in Action:

    Died of Wounds (DOW): A casualty category applicable to a hostile casualty who dies of wounds or other injuries received in action after having reached a medical treatment facility

    Killed in Action (KIA): A casualty category applicable to a hostile casualty who is killed outright or who dies as a result of wounds or other injuries before reaching a medical treatment facility.


    The company aid man renders the first emergency treatment
    for the soldier where he finds him and then directs or carries
    him to the battalion aid station in a protected area which may
    be 300 to 500 yards behind the fighting line. Here the soldier
    is given emergency medical care under the supervision of a
    medical officer, his emergency medical tag is started, and, if
    he cannot be returned to duty, he is prepared for immediate
    movement to the rear.
    The second echelon, which takes over when the man
    leaves the aid station, generally includes all of the remaining
    service furnished by the division. Collecting companies
    evacuate the aid stations to the division clearing station.
    There are three collecting companies in the medical battalion,
    and each may evacuate two or more aid stations. A collecting
    station is generally located a mile or so behind the front and is
    merely a stop-off where dressings can be checked, morphine
    given, or emergency procedures carried out which will prepare
    the casualty for the ride back to the clearing station,
    which is usually 4 to 7 miles on to the rear.
    The divisional clearing station receives casualties from the
    entire division. Here there are greater medical facilities and
    more medical officers. If the man can be returned to duty
    within a few days, he is kept here, but if not, he is prepared
    for further evacuation to the rear.
    Ambulances transport casualties from the division clearing
    station to the third echelon of medical service, i. e., an
    evacuation hospital which is generally several miles behind
    the division rear boundary, out of range of enemy artillery.
    The evacuation hospital has equipment and personnel qualified
    to carry out difficult surgical procedures, also nurses and
    x-ray, laboratory, bathing facilities, cots, and other equipment
    necessary to make a casualty comfortable. In this general area
    there may be also a convalescent hospital to which casualties
    can be sent from the evacuation hospital if they can be returned
    to duty within a short time.

    If you have access to, you can search the WWII Hospital Admission Card Files to see if he is listed:  U.S., World War II Hospital Admission Card Files, 1942-1954 | Ancestry®.  As the original records did not contain the name of the soldier, a search by service number would yield better results. is available at no charge at many public libraries.  If you don't have access to either, you can post his service number and I or someone with access to can search for the record.  The soldier's name may show up in the record as the names of some patients were added by Ancestry after comparing the service number to other military record collections

    U.S., World War II Hospital Admission Card Files, 1942-1954

    The files contain records pertaining to some 5.3 million patients, mostly U.S. Army personnel wounded in battle during World War II and the Korean War. The World War II records include only Army personnel treated at Army facilities....The records contain various medical treatment information about each patient including diagnoses, operations, and dates and places of hospitalization. The original records do not contain the name of the hospital patient, but list military service number, age, race, sex, place of birth, rank and unit. The names of some patients were identified and added to the record by comparing the service number to other military record collections available on Ancestry.
    These state-by-state lists from the National Archives and Records Administration, WWII Army and Army Air Force Casualties, will list the official type of casualty.
  • To all three researchers, Patti, Jo and Grace I want to thank you for the new and different choices I have to research. His name was Aral Ruch Moser Sr, dad being Aral Ruch Moser Jr. I'm going to dive in and read all these links. It becomes a matter that you just want to know. And particularly on this past weekend when the focus is not as much any more on what it was intended, the fallen heroes. Happy Memorial, Mattress Clearance, bbq plans. Maybe because it's so personal and was especially sad for my little boy dad. Again thank you so much and I'll report back what I find. Martha 

  • Aral R Moser

    in the U.S., World War II Hospital Admission Card Files, 1942-1954

    Name Aral R Moser
    Rank Enlisted Man
    Admission Date Sep 1944
    Discharge Date Sep 1944
    Military Branch Infantry, General or Unspecified
    Diagnosis Causative Agent: Artillery Shell, Blast Effects
    Type of Injury Casualty, battle
    Injured in Line of Duty In line of duty
    Type of Discharge Died
    Service Number 33773014

    The hospital admission card is not very conclusive.  The Individual Deceased Personnel file for your grandfather may contain more information. 

    Your grandfather's Individual Deceased Personnel File (IDPF) may have additional information about the circumstances of his death and burial. These files were NOT affected by the 1973 fire.

    At this current time (as of 22 days ago), IDPFs from 1940-1976 for U.S. Army personnel with surnames that begin with A-L are in the custody of the National Archives at St. Louis (RRPO). For more information about these records, please contact the National Personnel Records Center at NARA/St. Louis  via email at

    In the event the U.S. Army has the record, you may request a copy of the IDPF and use the sample letter provided here and fill in as much information as possible.

    U.S. Army Human Resources Command
    ATTN: AHRC-PAO (Dept. 103)
    1600 Spearhead Division Avenue
    Fort Knox, KY 40122

    Dear Staff:

    Pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act, I hereby make a request for the IDPF for my below listed family member who died or was killed-in-action while serving in the military during World War II.

    Soldier’s Name:
    Branch of Military:
    Military Service Number:
    Date of Birth:
    Date of Death:
    Burial site in U.S.A.:
    Relationship to deceased:

    Please be advised that I will be responsible for any costs incurred for photocopies over the allowed limit of free photocopies.

    My contact information is: Add name, address, and email.

    Very truly yours,

    As an alternative, you may try this email address for your request: 

  • Great, Martha

    Would love to hear that you found the information you were looking for.


  • As you all can tell I'm somewhat of a rookie with this format. I want to make sleyvmevure that all of the resources got a positive vote Thumbsup please let me know 


    Thank you for posting your request on History Hub!

    The Textual Reference Archives II Branch (RR2RR) has custody of the Records of the Adjutant General's Office, 1917- (Record Group 407) and the Records of U.S. Army Operational, Tactical, and Support Organizations (World War II and Thereafter) (Record Group 338).  Military unit files among these records consist mostly of historical reports, after action reports, unit journals, and general orders. These records do not include personnel information, nor do we have a name index to these records.

    The 23rd Infantry Regiment was part of the Second U.S. Infantry Division during World War II. Regimental (S-1) and divisional (G-1) records can provide casualty information, but this information is typically statistical in nature and generally does not provide the kind of information you seek.

    We do have casualty lists for the Second U.S. Infantry Division, which includes lists of casualties (by name) which generally indicates if a service member was “killed in action” (assuming a more or less immediate death as the result of the wounds received) or “died of wounds” (indicating that the service member died some time after having been initially wounded). We would need your grandfather’s complete name to determine if his name is on this list.

    Military service personnel files and individual medical reports for the period in which you are interested are in the custody of the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis, MO. To submit a request via Postal Mail please use the Standard Form 180 (SF-180): Request Pertaining to Military Records to submit your request. You should complete and mail the form to NARA's National Personnel Records Center, (Military Personnel Records), 1 Archives Drive, St. Louis, MO  63138-1002. You may also apply online on our Request Military Service Records webpage.  Please be aware that there was a fire at the Records Center in 1973 and some records were destroyed.

    Individual Deceased Personnel Files (IDPFs) for the U.S. Army for the period 1940-1976 for U.S. Army personnel with surnames that begin with the letters A-L are in the custody of the National Archives at St. Louis (RL-SL), 1 Archives Drive, Room 340, St. Louis, MO 63138; Phone: 314-801-0850; Fax: 314-801-9187; email:

    Individual Deceased Personnel Files (IDPFs) for the U.S. Army for the period 1940-1976 for U.S. Army personnel with surnames that begin with the letters M-Z are in the legal custody of the Department of the U.S. Army. Requests for these files must be made using the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) and submitted to the Department of the Army, US Army Human Resources Command, ATTN: AHRC-FOIA, 1600 Spearhead Division Avenue, Department 107,

    Fort Knox KY 40122. Requests may also be submitted via email to the following address: When submitting your request please be sure to include the following: (1) State that you are requesting access to the file under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA; (2) Provide the full name of the individual, their date of death, and service number, if available; (3) State your willingness to pay applicable fees; (4) Include a daytime telephone number in case they need to contact you. 

    We invite you to continue the conversation with community members on History Hub, but should you have follow up questions for the staff at Archives II, please email us at so that we can assist you further. 

    We hope this is helpful. Best of luck with your research! 


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