Ohio Civil War Volunteer Infantry

My 2x Great Grandpa, John Bandy born 1846 is shown in the "US Civil War Soldier Records Profile 1861-1865" AND in the "US Civil War Pension Index to Pension Files  1861-1934", to have served in the Ohio 135th Infantry AND the Ohio 180 Infantry. However, in his obituary it states that  he was a member of the 46th OVI. I am confused.  How can I clear this up for my records.?

  • Hi Peggy,

    That is a mystery!  I went & looked at the Civil War Service Card Index (on Fold 3) & found there were 3 cards John Bandy's listed for Ohio.  - One who served in the 8th Independent Company Ohio Sharpshooters, one who served Co. I 135th OH Infantry (OVI) & one listed in Co. E 180th OH Inf.  I did not find a John Bandy in the 46th OVI, but he could have served under another name. An alias or a simple misspelling of his name for example  (mistake an "A' for an 'O' & his name becomes Bondy.  Mistaking a "B" for an "R" becomes Randy.  Many people couldn't read or write  & even those that could, often didn't worry about the spelling of their name.  Often you will see a pension index card that has a soldier's alias as well as his real name.  They are filed under both names.  There was no evidence of this for a John Banduy in an OH Regiment.  All that said, I went & looked further at the 3 OH Service Cards for John Bandy or you can find them on Ancestry as I did. 

    I looked in the  Official roster of the soldiers of the State of Ohio in the War of the Rebellion, 1861-1865, Vols. 1-12. Akron and Cincinnati: 1886-1895. They are on  Family Search (a free site -just register)

    https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/75066?availability=Family%20History%20Library  

    This is the roster for the 8th Indpt Co. Sharpshooters showing John Bandy.  The  initial recruits were enrolled in Oct 1862 before the Regiment was mustered into US service in 1863.  I at first wondered if thesharpshooters had possibly been assigned with the 46th OVI (& that is where  the report of his service with 46th OVI came from but no evidence of this & I believe this is a different man)

    This John Bandy is listed as 29 yrs old when he enlisted in Oct. 1862- so born c.1833.  You reported your GGGrF was born 1846 .  Also this John Bandy served in Reg't till July 1865 so its unlikely the same man.

    He had a Pension Index Card with his widow listed - looks like Talitha Bandy & that he died in Nov 1919 in Gallia OH

    The soldier you cited that served in the other 2 regiments is listed as 18yrs old when he enlisted in May 1864 in the 135th OVI - which matches more with the 1846 birthdate

    I couldn't find a roster for Co. E of the 180th OVI but the Reg't was organized in Sept-Oct.1864 & as John was mustered out of the 135th in Sept.  it makes sense

    This is the Pension Index Card you mentioned & it shows his death Oct 31 1930 Cecil OH

    The "C" number on the card is indicative of the pension extending beyond 1928 (I believe) when the active pension files were transferred to the Veterans Admin.  I think these have since been returned to the National Archives, but perhaps someone from the Archives Staff can confirm (or deny) that!  I would incluse both cards if requesting his pension

    Also on the 1890 Veteran's Census for Emerald Twnshp Paulding Co. OH (which the veteran or widow was supposed to show paperwork -like a discharge - that showed his service) records him with the 180th OVI & for a disability, listed 'throat trouble'

     I found his obit (on Find-A-Grave) that as you said mentions his service in 46th OVI. The 46th OVI was organized at Worthington OH between Oct 1861 & Jan 1862 for 3-yrs service. Men who completed their 3-yrs service were mustered out but the Reg't was maintained with new recruits & re-enlisted veterans till mustered out in July 1865.  

    I'm not sure if you have requested his Pension Record but because it was an Invalid pension the soldier filed it & gave the information on his service  (vs. a family member, like a widow that may not have been married to him when he served & not have accurate info).  I believe if there was any documentation of his serving in the 46th OVI that would be included in the record. 

    I would assume that saying he served in 46th OVI was a mistake by whoever gave the information to the newspaper - either misunderstood or, mis-transcribed, etc.

    The OH Soldiers Grave Registration Cards (1804-1958)  - on Family Search or Ancestry 

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Ohio,_Grave_Registrations_of_Soldiers_-_FamilySearch_Historical_Records 

    "The information on the grave registration cards was taken from burial or cemetery records."

    The card shows him as with the 180th OVI (which is usual to show the last Reg't he served with)

    Hope that helps you fele better about stating his service in the 135th & 180th OVI.  Usually the obit can be a helpful assest in determining a veteran's service but I think in your ancestor's case it was a mistake that has caused confusion. Hopefully his pension record will be a final confirmation of his service.  Best of luck with your family research!

    P.McG

  • Thank you SO much for your research as it validates what I was finding. I had NOT seen the updated Pension Card with his death and seeing the address of Cecil, Ohio confirms I have the right John Bandy as that IS where he lived! Perfect!!

    I also appreciate learning about the "C" number on the card and what it means. I had not seen the Graves Reg. Card before so that was another great piece of affirmation for me. Interesting to know that it was "usual" to show the last reg't served. I did not know this before. This card is  accurate in every way; with name of kin, cemetery buried, date of birth etc..

    Thank you again, as I said, this is very affirming, pluls you gave me even more information that is extremely helpful.!!.

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    We searched the National Archives Catalog and located the series Regimental and Company Books of Civil War Volunteer Union Organizations, 1861 - 1867 in the Records of the Adjutant General's Office, 1762 - 1917 (Record Group 94) that include Regimental and Company Books of the 135th Ohio Infantry Regiment; Regimental and Company Books of the 180th Ohio Infantry Regiment; and Regimental and Company Books of the 46th Ohio Infantry Regiment. See also Records Relating to Civil War Units for additional unit records. For more information about the non-digitized records, please email the National Archives in Washington, DC - Textual Reference (RR1R) at archives1reference@nara.gov.

    We hope this is helpful. Best of luck with your family research!