6 Replies Latest reply on Dec 9, 2020 4:31 PM by Cameron Scott

    Seeking information about Paul Cisterna

    Cameron Scott Newbie

      My great grandfather immigrated from Genoa Italy to Canada. I can't find if he naturalized there. Also my grandfather naturalized in the US. Do you go by the intent date or the actual date of completion? My great grandfather 's name was Paul F. Cisterna and he was born in 1863 in Genoa, Italy. I also can't find out who his parents were in Italy. Thanks to anyone who can help.

        • Re: Seeking information about Paul Cisterna
          Susannah Brooks Pioneer

          For US naturalizations, you would use the date that he was accepted as a citizen of the US.  This date would appear on his petition for naturalization.  The Declaration of Intention, only states that the person intended to become a citizen, but is not an indication of naturalization.

          If he is the Paul Cisterna, a cabinetmaker, married to Lucy Broome, according to the 1911 Canadian census (Toronto North, Ontario) he was naturalized (Canadian) in 1903. 

          • Re: Seeking information about Paul Cisterna
            Alice Lane Pioneer

            Hi Cameron,

            Welcome to History Hub.


            Sorry, could not find parents of Paul



            Is this your Paul Cisterna? gives birth year as 1861 wife Lucy and 8 children

            Canada Census, 1911; https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-8987-L2DP?cc=2143998&wc=SK6B-3TG%3A1414206604%2C1414208001%2C1414208003

            Explanation of columns 1 to 41 of the Canadian census, for instance column 15 states the family's nationality is Canadian.and also Luxy, Nina, Beryl and were born in England, Family moved to Canada, Connie was born in Canada in 1900.

            Paul and Lucy may have been married in England and then you have the question why was Paul in England (don't know the answer)



            Death of Charles Henry Cisterna son of Paul and Lucy Cisterna

            Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947; https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6SL9-1BB?cc=1307826&wc=3LKS-3TL%3A1584243504%2C1584269001%2C1584269901


            findagrave.com Grave of Lucy Cisterna 1871-1955

            Lucy Cisterna (1871-1955) - Find A Grave Memorial


            Alice Lane

            Research Volunteer

            • Re: Seeking information about Paul Cisterna
              Cara Jensen Tracker

              Dear Mr. Scott,


              Thank you for posting your request on History Hub!


              The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) is the depository of the permanently valuable non-current records of the United States Federal Government.  We suggest that you contact the Library and Archives of Canada for Canadian immigration and/or possible naturalization information about your great grandfather.


              Beginning on September 27, 1906, the responsibility for United States naturalization proceedings was transferred to the U.S. Federal courts. If a naturalization took place in a Federal court, naturalization indexes, declarations of intention (with any accompanying certificates of arrival), and petitions for naturalization will usually be in the custody of the U.S. National Archives (NARA) facility serving the state in which the Federal court is located.


              Unfortunately, no central index exists. To locate naturalization records for your grandfather,  please include the name of petitioner (including known variants); date of birth; approximate date of entry to the US; approximate date of naturalization; where the individual was residing at the time of naturalization (city/county/state); and country of origin.


              Due to the COVID-19 pandemic and pursuant to guidance received from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), NARA has adjusted its normal operations to balance the need of completing its mission-critical work while also adhering to the recommended social distancing for the safety of NARA staff. As a result of this re-prioritization of activities, you may experience a delay in receiving an initial acknowledgement as well as a substantive response to your reference request. We apologize for this inconvenience and appreciate your understanding and patience.


              In most cases, the U.S. National Archives will not have a copy of the certificate of citizenship. Two copies of the certificate were created – one given to the petitioner as proof of citizenship, and one forwarded to the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS).


              Certificates of citizenship were issued by the U.S. Federal courts until October 1991 when INS took over responsibility for naturalization proceedings. All INS records are now overseen by the US Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). USCIS maintains duplicate copies of court records (including the certificate of citizenship) created since September 27, 1906 and may be requested through the USCIS Genealogy Program.


              Under Italian law, records of births, marriages, and deaths are maintained by the Registrar of Vital Statistics (Ufficio dello Stato Civile) in the city (comune or municipio) where the event occurred. There is no central, regional, or provincial office established which keeps such records. Therefore, we suggest that you contact the Stato Civile di Genova for guidance on how to obtain the records of your great grandfather and his family.  Please review the FamilySearch Research wiki for Genoa, Liguria, Italy Genealogy and the U.S. Embassy in Italy webpage on Obtaining Vital Records for more information.


              We hope this is helpful. Best of luck with your family research!


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