7 Replies Latest reply on Dec 5, 2019 9:56 AM by Charles Flink

    Seeking Pension Records of Ezekiel Whaley

    Charles Flink Newbie

      My 3rd great grandfather, Ezekiel Whaley, received a Rev. War pension from October 1818 to September 1834. What information does the US Government have on file regarding his death? Why did he not receive a pension payment in March 1835?

        • Re: Seeking Pension Records of Ezekiel Whaley
          Elliot Schneider Tracker

          Charles,

           

          I was looking at secondary sources from other websites and my question is did your great-grandfather always live in North Carolina or did he move to another state?

           

           

          Thanks,

           

           

          Elliot Schneider

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            • Re: Seeking Pension Records of Ezekiel Whaley
              Charles Flink Newbie

              Elliot:

               

              Thank you for your response. Ezekiel lived his entire life with a very compact area, what is today known as Deep Run, Lenoir County, North Carolina. His pension testimony was recorded in Lenoir County Courthouse. He lived most of his life not far from the Tuckahoe region that spans present day Lenoir and Jones County, North Carolina.

               

              I am hoping that who ever recorded his last payment filed a note or updated the record to define the reason for stopping payments - that he had passed away. I see this notation for many of the other Rev. War pensioners, but not for my Ezekiel. I assume the federal government received feedback from someone that Ezekiel was no longer living. Just hope it was noted somewhere with some specific information - when he died, where he was buried and whether his wife was living or deceased at the time of his death.

               

              Chuck Flink

            • Re: Seeking Pension Records of Ezekiel Whaley
              Lisha Penn Tracker

              Dear Mr. Flink,

               

              Thank you for posting your request to History Hub!

               

              We searched the National Archives Catalog and located a series Case Files of Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Applications Based on Revolutionary War Service in the Records of the Veterans Administration (Record Group 15) that includes a digitized copy of Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 42064, Ezekiel Whaley, N. C.).

               

              On Ancestry, we located the 1835 Pension Roll for Ezekiel Whaley that indicates he did receive a pension payment that year since there are not any remarks listed in the last column about him being “dropped or suspended” from the roll. And, we located the burial site of Ezekiel Whaley who died on March 5, 1888 and was buried in Rhode Island where he also was born in 1782. There may be a fee for using Ancestry. Instead, you may view these records online at one NARA's facilities for free via a NARA PC. For the nearest NARA location, please consult our web page at https://www.archives.gov/locations/. Also, some of the images from Ancestry are available for free on Family Search at https://www.familysearch.org/en/.

               

              We suggest that you review NARA’s Prologue magazine entitled, Follow the Money: Tracking Revolutionary War Army Pension Payments for additional research tips.

               

              We hope this is helpful. Best of luck with your family research!

               

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                • Re: Seeking Pension Records of Ezekiel Whaley
                  Charles Flink Newbie

                  Lisha:

                   

                  Thank you very much for your reply. Here is some more detailed information in response and some questions I hope you might be able to help with.

                   

                  1) I have a certified “last pension payment” receipt from the federal government. The way I interpret the voucher is that in the 4th quarter of 1834, the General Accounting Office knew that they would not make any more payments to Ezekiel Whaley of Lenoir County, North Carolina. It uses the words “last” and “final.” Now perhaps that was for the year 1834, but it seems repetitive in my opinion. Also, what does the “star” symbol mean next to his last name?

                   

                  I know that Ezekiel Whaley appears in the 1835 Pension Roll as still receiving a Pension Payment. So I am trying to understand the significance of the Final Payment Voucher versus the 1835 Pension Roll. Ezekiel Whaley is not heard from again after the 1834 Final Payment Voucher nor the 1835 Pension Roll listing. So I assume he died between the Fall of 1834 and the Spring of 1835.

                   

                  The Ezekiel Whaley you cite from Rhode Island is a completely different person and not my 4th great grandfather.

                   

                  2) The United States Bank in North Carolina was located in Fayetteville, North Carolina. It was called The United States Bank, Fayetteville Branch. This was the Bank that was responsible for distributing the payments to pensioners in North Carolina. However, this bank opened for business October 8, 1835. The President of the Fayetteville Branch was Mr. John Huske, himself a Rev. War pensioner. Huske was also a registered federal agent, so approved by Congress for the State of North Carolina. He had responsibility for distributing the pension payments to approved pensioners like Ezekiel Whaley. He became a registered agent in 1832, by Congressional Appointment.

                   

                  3) The bank that may have handled transactions for Ezekiel Whaley was known as the State Bank of North Carolina, which operated from 1818-1833. The President at the time of the Bank closing was Dr. Benjamin Robeson. The agent was Edward Winslow. This bank closed on July 15, 1833. Its operations were taken over by the Bank of the United States, Fayetteville Branch. So it is unclear to me which bank issued the final payment that is associated with the General Accounting Office Final Voucher to Ezekiel Whaley in the Fall of 1834. There appears to be a gap in time, however, the Voucher says “Fayetteville, NC."

                   

                  4) I don’t know exactly how the Pension Payment system worked. However, at the time, there were not that many banks in North Carolina. Most people dealt in limited currency transactions, unlike today. However, in Ezekiel Whaley’s case as a Rev. War Pensioner, he was getting a quarterly stipend from the government. That most likely arrived in the form of cash. That cash may have been delivered directly from the Fayetteville bank to Mr. Whaley at his home in Deep Run, Lenoir County, NC.

                   

                  5) The Fayetteville branch of the United States Bank must have kept a detailed ledger. I have found one other bank in North Carolina (That was the Bank of the State of North Carolina, Elizabeth City Branch (1836-1862). It is a ledger book with detailed payments made) that did and the records are available through NC Archives and History. However, I have checked and they don’t have records for the Banks in Fayetteville.  A similar book hopefully exists for the United States Bank in Fayetteville.

                   

                  6) Hopefully, also there is some detailed information about Mr. Huske and the previous Federal agents activities on behalf of the federal government in distributing Pension Payments in North Carolina. I found one Congressional Record where Mr. Huske asks Congress to remove a Rev. War pensioner from their list as he has passed on. I hope the GAO kept detailed records. This would be after the fire that burned the records of early Rev. War pensioners. So there has to be a more detailed banking record for Ezekiel Whaley.

                   

                  As you say, I am trying to follow the money. Thank you.

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                • Re: Seeking Pension Records of Ezekiel Whaley
                  Lisha Penn Tracker

                  Dear Mr. Flink,

                   

                  Thank you for posting your follow-up request on History Hub!

                   

                  Unfortunately, we are unable to provide any additional information online about your follow-up request.

                   

                  We suggest that you contact the National Archives in Washington - Textual Reference (RDT1) via email at archives1reference@nara.gov because they have custody of 19th Century Records of the Veterans Administration (Record Group 15); and Records of the Accounting Officers of the Department of Treasury (Record Group 217). Please ask RDT1 to conduct a search of their  records for a possible response to questions about your ancestor’s final pension payment voucher and other related matters.

                   

                  We hope this is helpful.

                   

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