1939 Passenger List departing New York

My mother and her parents travelled from New York to Cobh, Ireland on board President Harding in 1939. UK incoming passenger records show the ship arriving at Southampton on 3 November 1939 with a list of UK passengers but don't list the passengers who disembarked in Cobh, Ireland a few days earlier.  How do I find a catalogue reference for these passengers departing New York or can I order the record from Archives even if it is not digitized yet?

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    Thank you for posting your question on History Hub!
    The National Archives at Philadelphia is the repository for the permanently valuable records of federal agencies and federal courts in Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and West Virginia.  We are also a repository for permanently valuable records of federal agencies and federal courts in New Jersey, New York, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands.
    We do not hold many records relating to departing passengers because vessels' passenger lists were typically turned in at ports of arrival.  We have looked at records from the Port of New York in our holdings of various record groups, including Record Group 36, Records of the U.S. Customs Service; Record Group 41, Records of the Bureau of Marine Inspection and Navigation; and Record Group 85, Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, but we did not see any series likely to contain information on passengers who departed from that port.
    There are Inward Passenger Lists for voyages ending or stopping in the United Kingdom and Ireland held at the National Archives of the U.K.  However, we assume their Irish passenger lists would only be from the period when Ireland was part of the U.K., which would predate your family's 1939 voyage.  We would recommend contacting the National Archives of Ireland to inquire about whether they hold passenger arrival lists for voyages ending or stopping at ports in Ireland.  The Genealogy page on their website does not list passenger lists among the genealogical records that they hold.  But their staff may be able to tell you whether the passenger list from that voyage is likely to have survived and, if so, whether they have it or if they can direct you to another repository for it.  Here is a link to their website:
    We hope that is helpful.  We invite you to continue the conversation with community members on History Hub, but should you have follow-up questions for the staff of the National Archives at Philadelphia, please e-mail us at philadelphia.archives@nara.gov so we can assist you further.  Good luck with your research.
     
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    Thank you for posting your question on History Hub!
    The National Archives at Philadelphia is the repository for the permanently valuable records of federal agencies and federal courts in Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and West Virginia.  We are also a repository for permanently valuable records of federal agencies and federal courts in New Jersey, New York, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands.
    We do not hold many records relating to departing passengers because vessels' passenger lists were typically turned in at ports of arrival.  We have looked at records from the Port of New York in our holdings of various record groups, including Record Group 36, Records of the U.S. Customs Service; Record Group 41, Records of the Bureau of Marine Inspection and Navigation; and Record Group 85, Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, but we did not see any series likely to contain information on passengers who departed from that port.
    There are Inward Passenger Lists for voyages ending or stopping in the United Kingdom and Ireland held at the National Archives of the U.K.  However, we assume their Irish passenger lists would only be from the period when Ireland was part of the U.K., which would predate your family's 1939 voyage.  We would recommend contacting the National Archives of Ireland to inquire about whether they hold passenger arrival lists for voyages ending or stopping at ports in Ireland.  The Genealogy page on their website does not list passenger lists among the genealogical records that they hold.  But their staff may be able to tell you whether the passenger list from that voyage is likely to have survived and, if so, whether they have it or if they can direct you to another repository for it.  Here is a link to their website:
    We hope that is helpful.  We invite you to continue the conversation with community members on History Hub, but should you have follow-up questions for the staff of the National Archives at Philadelphia, please e-mail us at philadelphia.archives@nara.gov so we can assist you further.  Good luck with your research.
     
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    [RRFP 25-00831-SC]
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