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I am trying to find all the ships and passenger lists that sailed from Italy to NY in 1890.

kpeterson923

I am trying to find all the ships and passenger lists that sailed from Italy to NY in 1890. My ancestors name is spelled several ways so it is difficult to look it up by name. He was also mixed up with another person on naturalization forms. Is it possible to get this information?

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    What name search utility did you use?  Did you use the White form at: https://stevemorse.org/ellis2/elliswhite.html for 1890 which will give you flexibility with names: exact, starts with, contains, spells like, sounds like??  

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    I have used everything that was recommended. I did use the Stevemorse and it came up empty. I think I will try to contact National Archives by email or phone and maybe get somewhere. Thank you for your response.

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    If you want some extra eyes to see if we can find your record, tell us his name, birthplace and date, where he was going in the U.S., where he ended up, whether coming alone or with family.  How do you know he came into New York?  Did you use the white form at Stevemorse since the Gold Form is for Ellis Island starting 1892?

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    @kpeterson923

    Thank you for posting your question on History Hub!
    A community member mentions various ways to continue a more targeted search online. Below is the general information for researching these records, and we support the idea of trying different search strategies in the different online resources. For example, if you can access Ancestry, one thing you can do from their database is browse through various ships that arrived on a specific date. That might be a lot of work, but it's another way to go if you can't find him through searching by name. You can also structure a search without using any actual names - all males who came in 1890, etc. (but you will get a lot of hits without at least some information to narrow things down). 
    New York arrival records are publicly available through 1957. The records have been digitized and are available via the genealogy subscription sites Family Search and Ancestry. Those sites also have pretty powerful search databases (by name). We offer them for free public use in all our research rooms. They do require a subscription or at least a login to access from home, though they also may be available for free public use at your local library. Here is some more information including on the original source material - NARA microfilm, and where/how to access that:  

    If you have access to Ancestry and/or Family Search, here are the specific databases to try. Also the Ellis Island Foundation site has an index as well, and we think it's tied somehow to the same indexing and images on Family Search: 
    You can also try the National Archives Access to Archival Databases (AAD) portal which contains 4 databases pertaining to New York arrivals for different groups for certain periods. The series is Ship Passenger Lists, which includes a file with manifest header information and four passenger list files:
    • German, French, and Swiss Passenger Records, ca. 1820 - ca. 1912
    • Records of Passengers from Ireland and the United Kingdom, ca. 1820 - ca. 1912
    • Italian Passenger Records, ca. 1820 - ca. 1912
    • Records of Passengers from the Russian Empire, Austria-Hungary, the Netherlands, Scandinavia, and other European Countries, ca. 1820 - ca. 1912
    As a final suggestion, there is a well known published resource called the "Morton Allan directory of European passenger steamship arrivals for the years 1890-1930" that may be available at your local library or genealogy center, or obtainable through purchase. It may continue the raw data you mention of the steamships coming into New York from various departure ports for that year. 
    We invite you to continue the conversation with community members on History Hub, who have already provided good assistance, but should you have followup questions for the staff at the National Archives, please email us at inquire@nara.gov so that we can assist you further.

    We hope this helps with your research!  

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