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Trying to find my father and born in approximately 1930s Air Force records enlisted when he was 17 years old dishonorably discharge Abraham, Bernard Rothman from New York

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he raised us under an alias me and my four siblings are Bernard Arthur, Bernard Riley. After he deceased in 1997. I managed to get his friend to tell me his real name growing up, which was Abraham Bernard Rothman. he managed to live that alias his whole life, and we never got to learn anything about his family. Other than he mentioned there from New York. He mentioned in listening when he was 17 and then realizing he made a mistake, he claimed his superior officer made a homosexual pass at him, and they dishonorably discharged him potentially had a sister named Ruth. His parents were much older when they had him according to him wealthy and didn't have much to do with him

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    Where and on what date did he pass away? It's possible that even though he changed his name he might not have changed his birth date... If you provide more details they might be used to track down his birth info and then the info you want. There are multiple men with names similar to Abraham Bernard Rothman, so I don't think he can be identified yet without more details...

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    Did he also use the name Arthur Riley? Did he pass away in November 1, 1997 in Norfolk, Virginia?

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    If this is your father, then this is what he claimed on his Social Security Application:

    Name Arthur Bernard Riley
    Gender Male
    Race White
    Birth Date 15 Jan 1937
    Birth Place Detroit, Michigan
    Death Date 1 Nov 1997
    Father Jack Riley
    Mother Martha Moore
    SSN 516666756
    Notes Apr 1969: Name listed as ARTHUR BERNARD RILEY; 12 Nov 1997: Name listed as ARTHUR B RILEY

    His grave has his birth date as 1 Jan 1937, but this and his marriage record with Sherry Rae Kincheloe have 15 Jan 1937...

    I know this is not the military records you're seeking, but this info, especially his SSN, may lead to them...

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    Various records for Arthur Riley have that he was born in Michigan. Could this be him? This is a 1953 yearbook photo from Dundee High School in Michigan. Unfortunately, his name is only given as "A. Rothman."

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    Disregard my previous post re: A. Rothman. He was Aaron Rothman. :(

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    Here's another possibility: Abe Rotman. Note that he's living in Michigan in 1950, but was born in New York. Plus, he has a sister Ruth:

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6FS8-RZXH

    A member at Ancestry.com has added a comment that Abe Rotman should be Abraham Rothman for this yearbook photo:

    His mother Lena Weisberg Rotman/Rothman Weissman died in 1950. Her second husband Milo Weissman remarried in 1951. I could find no obituary for Lena Weissman. (I found it interesting that her birth month/day was January 15 as well. Coincidence or not?)

    Lena's first husband was Aaron Rotman. They were married in 1927.

    Rotman was the original surname, but Aaron and other family members changed it to Rothman later.

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    Abraham Rotman was born in New York on October 19, 1934. I've not been able to find anything about him past the 1950 US Census, although there are many Abraham/Abe Rotmans/Rothmans in various records. His sister Ruth died in 2008.

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    Arthur Bernard Riley's Social Security Application data indicates that he applied in April 1969 in Montana. He was fairly old to be applying at age 35. I'm guessing that he was Abraham Rotman before then... It's also possible that he used his stepfather's surname Weissman before 1969.

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    Hello brouchomops,

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