Archived Records for Patient

My 2nd Great Grandmother was an inmate/patient at the Washington Hospital for the Insane/St. Elizabeth's Hospital. Amelia Trilling resided there from 1900-1930ish. She was born 13 March 1881 and died 22 July 1938. What's the next step to get her archived institutional records? 

  • Bunny, 

    I found a newspaper clipping   Link: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-evening-times-amelia-trilling-suffer/2403532/

    Looks like the National Archives has St. Elizabeth's Hospital records. You would need to fill out a form to get a copy of the records.

    https://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/418.html

    Hope this helps.

    Patti

  • The records for St. Elizabeth's Hospital are at the National Archives in Washington DC. Records of St. Elizabeths Hospital (archives.gov)

  • Bunny,

    Haven't be able to find her records: Link 1900 Census:https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMFC-3MF

    Her mother and father are listed above. Hope this helps a bit.

    Patti

  • I am not sure if I answered this inquiry previously. I do not see a reply from me below.

    I am an Archives volunteer at Saint Elizabeths Hospital Volunteer and may be able to assist you. There is an Amelia Trilling whose medical record still exists and is available for viewing at the National Archives in Washington, DC. Hospital Records are group #418

    If you are not in DC, you can request the staff to copy for you. There will be a fee.

    Amelia Trilling, Patient #10,608 - this number fits with an admissions year of ca. 1900.

    Box 178

    Nara ID 4847

    NARA also has the patient register for this period. As each patient was admitted to the hospital they were assigned a number. The registers have basic information about why they were admitted. The information is brief, but can be helpful. Amelia may also have had a lunacy hearing. Those records are usually in the D.C. Court files, which are also at NARA.

    I hope that this is helpful. Maureen Jais-Mick

    After I submitted this reply I checked our patient index cards. The index cards, which were how the hospital kept track of patients pre-computers, are the only information we have on early patients. According to Amelia Trilling's card her class was "indigent" (no one to pay for her care); her Civil Con. was "Single." Her religion was "Catholic." Her Nativity was "D.C." She had no prior admissions. You would know more about her marital status at that time. She was listed as 17 when she was admitted on 3-11-1898. She died at the hospital on 7-22-1938 in the Medical & Surgical Building. I checked the surgery log and could find no record of a surgery done before her death. No autopsy was performed.

    This form will not let me insert a picture or I would send you a copy of the index card. 

    The medical file at NARA will have much more information. Maureen Jais-Mick

  • I have a DC for Amelia Trilling. She was a "lifetime" patient at St Elizabeth's Hospital. Her date of death is July 23, 1938.

    An autopsy was performed. The cause of death reads: Pulmonary Edema & Bronchial Pneumonia with a contributing factor of a Fractured Humerus . Diagnosis confirmed by X-Ray.  A physician with initials B, A.  C ???? last name illegible. 

    signed certificate.  An operation did not precede death. Her sister was the informant -Maggie Thompson - Amelia's age on DC is 51 years, 4 months, and 9 days.

    I am curious about any other records for her, I will be visiting Natl Archives next week. 

    Thank you for your informtion, it is very helpful.

  • Hi Bunny,

    I am looking for records also for Amelia for 2 of her Great Nieces. May I ask what year Amelia's child was born? Was it before she became a patient at St Elizabeth which records show was 1900?  This would make Amelia 19 years old. Or was the birth of her child recorded during her "inmate" years at St. Elizabeth? Her Death Certificate shows an autopsy was performed.  It appears only relatives of the deceased may request a copy in WA DC.

  • Hello sleuther72  

    I missed all Archive responses about Amelia Trilling somehow. Found them today quite by accident. While performing research on my family tree, it was alleged by one of the Trilling nieces that my Great Grandmother and her son were linked to Amelia's tree as off springs. Rosa/Rose Twyman, (n) born abt. 1894-1898 and Edwin Twyman, (n) born 1906. FYI, Amelia was also a patient at St. Elizabeth's in 1898, according to another Archive research report. 

    There happens to be a Rosa/Rose Twyman listed on the St. Elizabeth's Federal Census report in 1940 and 1950. Margaret "Maggie" Trilling (whom you refer to as a "sister" present when Amelia died), is also on the same 1950 Census report with Rosa. Can you tell me anything about Rose/Rosa? It's possible she was there before 1940 as well. I appreciate your due diligence on this matter.

    Bunny!

  • My research does not show that Amelia Trilling gave birth to a child. She lived in St. Elizabeth Hospital from her late teens to her death.  If you believe you are a direct descendant of Amelia Trilling, you should review the Death certificates for your parents & grandparents.  All 20th and 21st-century-issued death certificates list the parents of the deceased.  The mother's surname and place of birth are listed.   After 75 years, death certificates are made public records.  That is why Amelia's is online in genealogy data resources.   Much information on family trees is incorrect. Much information in family "stories" is incorrect.  I would not rely on them; instead, as you build your family tree, at least for the first 3 generations: (1)you,  (2)your parents, and (3)grandparents, you should only use vital records: Birth certificates and Death certificates and reliable DNA tools as a potential backup.

  • I can add a little bit to the story regarding Rose Twyman (patient #30770) and her time at Saint Elizabeths Hospital. She came to the hospital 6-6-1923 and died here 2-25-1971. As it has been at least 50 years since her death, I can share that her earliest diagnostic code was 22.5. According to the DSMI (1952) that meant "schizophrenic reaction, chronic undifferentiated type." Later the code was revised to 295.90, which in the DSMII (1968) meant the same. I have attached Rose's patient index card, which is the only information we retain in the hospital archives. The death register notes "no autopsy." Maureen Jais-Mick, Saint Elizabeths Hospital Archives Volunteer. Best wishes for your continued research.TWYMAN ROSE INDRX CARD.pdf

  • Bunny, just to clarify: I am not aware of any info regarding Maggie Trilling.  I think you misread my post regarding the death certificate details for Amelia Trilling. I wrote that a Maggie Thompson , her sister was the informant on her death certificate in 1938. This only means she provided some information, it does not mean she also resided at St Elizabeth.  There is also an obituary for Amelia. It does not mention any children .