Spanish/French Items in Roosevelt Campaign Need Transcribing or Review

Thanks!  I will look at the French, and depending on complexity may be able to do some.

Note that accents are quite easy to add without a specialized keyboard:

• For Mac/iOS:  hold down the key for the letter in question, and it will bring up all accents possible for that letter.

• For Windows: There are keyboard shortcuts to add accents.  The most common ones are easily learned.
• https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/keyboard-shortcuts-to-add-language-accent-marks-in-word-3801b103-6a8d-42a5-b8…

I would encourage everyone to add accents and diacritics on first transcription, as that avoids the possibility that someone else may approve the document without them. They are not optional and can change meaning of words entirely.

Hi Diane- I came across this newspaper article in French. I don't know if you would be willing to transcribe it.

Thanks,

Henry

https://crowd.loc.gov/campaigns/rough-rider-bull-moose-theodore-roosevelt/5-july-16-1904-sept-23-1905-president-in-his-own-right/mss382990049/mss382990049-252/

Thanks - gave it a shot!

I OCR'd it and took a pass at cleaning it up, addressing any illegible words that could be extrapolated.  It's pretty close to done, but I left it "in progress" for you to review.

Thanks Diane

Henry:  someone undid all my work on this.  I had it all complete, with correct columns, word breaks and accents.  It is now all undone.  I don't know if I can redo it all again (should have copied final version to a file...), but will try off line and then paste back - sigh...

Incidentally, the correct byline is:

SEUL JOURNAL FRANÇAIS RECEVANT PAR FILS SPÉCIAUX LES DERNIÈRES NOUVELLES

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k559260c

Diane- I'm responding to your follow up message which for some reason did not show up here. I noticed the page was not complete and it said someone else was working on it. I thought may be that was you finishing up. If you decide to do it again hit save and submit and let me know so I can review it. You never have to leave it "in progress" for me. I trust you and at worst I could edit but not with the French which you know better than I do.

Sorry for the hassle.

Henry

Thanks, Henry!

I submitted for review this time even though it has some "???" still.  Please correct as you can and I can final approve if you like later this evening (I'm off the rest of the day far from computer...).

I accepted it. I thought it was good enough.

Hi, Henry.

You may have noticed that part of the article in question is missing from the clipping.

(I don't know if readers (of the transcription) should be alerted to that, or will just notice that when looking at the image.)

Good Afternoon to you.

Ethan.

Diane:

Hi.

I would prefer that (if possible) nothing be made "final" which still has question marks in the transcription.

I had briefly looked at the "Page" in question before now -- and I was impressed that you (Diane) figured out the "PAR" in the line about how the newspaper (Le Matin (= "The Morning" or "Morning") of Paris) was boasting that they got news through/by way of ("PAR") "SPECIAL TELEGRAPH LINES" .

I have just started to look for the areas where there are still question marks: the first one (in the midst of a discussion of the State of Vermont in 1904 (I guess) seems to be due to most of a line being obscured (possibly by the clipping having been folded) ; the words are (indeed) quite-unclear, but I think that I am able to guess (from what I can (in fact) see and from the surrounding words)  that the "missing" words are "rencontre aucun centre" (making the sentence read (in English) "It's a very mountainous province, [sic] in which one sees no big city [or "big town"], in which one does not encounter any very large [or "major", or "important"] manufacturing center and in which one finds the most unexcited [Wordreference.com has "mellowed, mature" for the sense which I think is used here] and most calm population of the Republic".

("ne rencontre aucun centre manufacturier" would be "does not encounter any manufacturing center" (or "center of manufacturing") .)

I'll add this guess, and see if I can decipher other parts of the text which have left Diane and Henry "stumped".

Good Afternoon to those reading this this afternoon. (afternoon where you are) .

Ethan.

PS (about 2:55 PM Eastern Time): Oops! The transcription has been "locked" as "Completed".

(Perhaps it could be un-locked?)

E.

PPS: (about 3:05 PM ET; after looking at the other obscure spots:) I think I have guesses-which-make-sense fo the other 2 obscure spots as well ("mains" and "près -" (or maybe a longer dash: it's harder to guess length of punctuation than words with meaning) , respectively.

E.

PPPS:  (nearly 5 PM ET:) I think that the (unclear) 1st word in the line above the word I guess to be "près" is "trouver" (= "to find"), rather than "motiver" (= "to motivate" or "to cause"). [And I think "faudrait" would be more-correct (a bit earlier) than "faurait".]

E.

Diane, maybe you should report this. It could be a problem with the site. The reason I suspect this is that I have had a couple of pages [NOT French or Spanish pages, though] that I thought were undone. I was sure I had either started or finished some--usually started, I think. But I didn't have any way to be sure so I considered the possibility that it was my problem, even though I didn't think so. Recently I've been more careful to keep track of pages I'm working on so if it happens again I can report it.

Another reason I think this is a possibility is because I came across some reports of problems that were occurring a few months ago during the time I thankfully was not doing any transcribing. I'm glad it didn't happen to me until recently--if it actually happened as I suspect.

I just remembered something else--There have been several times in recent weeks that I was working on a page for a few minutes--maybe 10 or so--when I got a message that someone else was working on it. Thankfully that seems to have stopped. It shouldn't have happened because I was saving every 2-3 minutes.

Anyway I'm sorry your work was undone and hope it doesn't happen to you again.

Diane, maybe you should report this. It could be a problem with the site. The reason I suspect this is that I have had a couple of pages [NOT French or Spanish pages, though] that I thought were undone. I was sure I had either started or finished some--usually started, I think. But I didn't have any way to be sure so I considered the possibility that it was my problem, even though I didn't think so. Recently I've been more careful to keep track of pages I'm working on so if it happens again I can report it.

Another reason I think this is a possibility is because I came across some reports of problems that were occurring a few months ago during the time I thankfully was not doing any transcribing. I'm glad it didn't happen to me until recently--if it actually happened as I suspect.

I just remembered something else--There have been several times in recent weeks that I was working on a page for a few minutes--maybe 10 or so--when I got a message that someone else was working on it. Thankfully that seems to have stopped. It shouldn't have happened because I was saving every 2-3 minutes.

Anyway I'm sorry your work was undone and hope it doesn't happen to you again.

Occasionally I have had people edit a page I had worked on and they have gotten it wrong. In some cases I have contacted someone I trust asked their opinion and asked them to accept it if they agreed with me. Diane and I have mistakenly done this to each other but once we realized it was us we discussed the page and came to a consensus on what the words were in question. However, it is weird to have a whole page be removed.

Laurie: Thanks! This could be an issue with the site. One thing that struck me as very odd was that minor errors like the misspelling of “département” in the header and extra spaces in hyphenated words had been reinstated exactly as previously.

I saved often over the hour I worked on this, so I’m very surprised it would revert to something several dozen saves previously.

How does one report a page?

I have often had the experience you mention about faux messages saying someone else is working on it and I believe it can sometimes result from accessing the document from multiple devices.

If you email crowd@loc.gov you can report a page or at the bottom of any document, go to Questions?, then Technical Issue? and report the page.

Yes, Henry's instructions are correct!  Just shoot us an email directly or through the Questions button at the bottom of the page.

We have had several people report page reservation or transcription loss in the last few months, but have been unable to figure out what's going on. I think I will also start a new History Hub thread as a place where people can share about these issues. The more information we have about exactly what you did, the browser and type of device you were using, what page it was, and when, the more likely it is we can determine the problem and find a solution!

Diane, I don't use more than one device to work here--just my desktop computer. So that wasn't the problem for me but maybe it will help someone else to know that.

Henry, I don't see Questions? at the bottom of this document. What am I missing?

It's a gray box at the bottom of the page, not in the document itself. Scroll all the way down and you should see it.

I also see no way to report.

If you are on a page, scroll to the bottom, click where it says Questions? Then click Technical Issue? A page should come up where you can post a request such as to reopen a page. You will need to copy the URL so make sure to copy it before starting the process.

I posted the page below as an example.

https://crowd.loc.gov/campaigns/rough-rider-bull-moose-theodore-roosevelt/5-july-16-1904-sept-23-1905-president-in-his-own-right/mss382990049/mss382990049-703/

Henry, thanks for clarifying. This is wonderful to know! I never looked at the "Questions?" box before. The library made it so much easier. When I couldn't find what you were talking about, I was half asleep and thought you meant to scroll to the bottom of this page.