10 Replies Latest reply on Mar 14, 2018 10:24 AM by Textual Reference Branch, Archives II Branched from an earlier discussion.

    Navy records other than deck logs

    Cindy Koehn Wayfarer

      I'm interested in the history of my dad's and uncle's ships during WW2.  I once read online a short excerpt of a log for another ship, and it was pretty dry stuff - who went to inspect the powder magazine, what ships came and went in the harbor, reporting that some officer was 10 minutes late in reporting for duty.  I most want to know what ACTION they saw (if that's the right word) - where they went, what fighting or battles they participated in, where my sailors may have had shore leave - things like that.  Where does one hunt for that kind of info? 

        • Re: Navy records other than deck logs
          Michael Tomko Scout

          The COR Command Operation Report will providing a yearly narrative or training, deployments, exercises and missions.

          The After ACTION Report, Battle Damage Report or Event Summary will give an outline of the mission, outcomes, casualties and lessons learned. These are usually restricted and classified and will need  a Classification Challenge, FOIA or Mandatory Declassification Review. The PIDB Public Interest Declassification Board has presented a report on various subjects recommended for declassification reviews. The Board receives recommendations from the House and Senate Intel committees and Homeland Security Committees. If you wish to confirm the old war stories from decades ago, then a FOIA would most likely be needed.

          • Re: Navy records other than deck logs
            Michael Tomko Scout

            This is the link to the PIDB Declassification Priorities listings....lots of work for the next hundred years, hopefully.

             

             

             

            https://www.archives.gov/files/declassification/pidb/recommendations/setting-priorities.pdf

            • Re: Navy records other than deck logs
              Michael Tomko Scout

              NARA should have the After Actions from WW2 ships. Submarine Patrol Reports are classified. Many of the Submarine Patrol Reports during the Vietnam Era are classified, the few CORs are noted as such, or noted as no report submitted.

              In many situations the submarines were utilized to deploy service members into an operational area or retrieve defectors. In some instances they may not have returned. The COR of the Dolphin research sub is very interesting.

              • Re: Navy records other than deck logs
                Michael Tomko Scout

                Where to hunt for that type of info......amazing,  it seems that today... the leader of Russia has just disclosed a nuclear "powered" cruise missile!  This means that the indirect nuclear engine technology displayed on U-Tube vids, has now allowed cruise missiles and aircraft to continuously fly for months without landing. This technology would render the infrared launch detection systems useless. The unmanned cruise missiles that are currently flying could be camouflaged as commercial aircraft?  These types of missiles could also lead to weapons in space in a constant state of flight and orbit. This is really an amazing disclosure that many people are unable to understand and calculate the historic possibilities and future ramifications. How long has this technology existed? It seems like the information has been on U-tube for quite some time?

                 

                 

                Todays News......

                 

                "His address was accompanied by videos and computer simulations of the new weapons, shown on giant screens at a conference hall near the Kremlin. The audience of senior officials and lawmakers broke into applause, giving him a standing ovation at one point.

                "No one else in the world has anything like that," Putin said. "It may appear someday, but by that time, we will develop something new."

                He said the nuclear-powered cruise missile, which was tested last fall, has a "practically unlimited" range, and its high speed and maneuverability allow it to pierce any missile defense.

                The high-speed underwater drone also has an "intercontinental" range and is capable of slamming a nuclear warhead into both aircraft carriers and coastal facilities, he said. Its "very big"

                • Re: Navy records other than deck logs
                  Textual Reference Branch, Archives II Adventurer

                  Cindy Koehn

                   

                  A deck log is a brief record of the daily administrative activities of a ship. It includes journal-style entries of the ship's administrative activities; location and course of travel; disciplinary procedures; and any unusual events. The logs sometime include information related to operational activities, although the level of content and detail may vary widely. Deck logs are not detailed journals describing a ship's mission and all events transpiring in and around the ship, although they do sometimes provide information about a ship's operations. As such, these entries can often by "dry stuff".

                   

                  Along with holding the deck logs of United States Navy ships, the National Archives in College Park, MD also hold the Action Reports and War Diaries for United States Navy ships during World War II. Action Reports provide information about single incidences or actions that the ship participated in. War Diaries are monthly summaries of all actions the ship participated in. Action Reports and War Diaries are useful in understanding what the ship did during the war and include information not provided by the deck logs.

                   

                  If you are able to provide us more information about what ships your father and uncle served on during the war and what time periods they served on those ships, we will be happy to search the records for you. You are also welcome to visit our facility to research these records or hire a local researcher to do that for you

                   

                  We hope this information is helpful and useful to you.

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                    • Re: Navy records other than deck logs
                      Cindy Koehn Wayfarer

                      Here's their service info I pulled out of their service jackets.  I also have their service numbers, of course, but wasn't sure if I should post them in a public place.  Dad is first, Uncle second:

                       

                      KOEHN, Frank Charles, reported aboard U.S.S. Arctic (AF-7) on 26 April 1943.  Separated from service 25 January 1946

                       

                      KOEHN, Alfred Walter, reported aboard U.S.S. LCI(R) 643 on 5 July 1944.  Separated from service 26 April 1946.

                       

                      Thank you for your help, and the info on other resources and places to look.

                        • Re: Navy records other than deck logs
                          Textual Reference Branch, Archives II Adventurer

                          We performed a search of our Action Reports and War Diaries for the USS Arctic AF-7 and USS LCI(R) 643. We do not have any action reports for the USS Arctic AF-7, but there are war diaries for 1942, various months in 1943, and all months in 1944 and 1945.

                           

                          There is an action report of USS LCI(R) 643 covering the time period of March 26-June 23, 1945 when the ship was involved in the invasion and occupation of Okinawa and Kerama Retto. There are also war diaries for February-July 1945.

                           

                          These records will help provide more information about what actions these ships were involved in.

                           

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